Hi Leo
I'm travelling today and so can't answer fully, but I would like to point out that what you are trying to achieve (giving TW5 the appearance of TWC) is not really something I would class as "easy". Doing it would require pretty good knowledge of HTML and CSS, and TiddlyWiki's internals. So, you shouldn't beat yourself up for not being able to achieve it with your present level of knowledge. Of course it would be good to make what you want to do be an easy thing to accomplish. That will require a new theme, so that users can just switch. >From my perspective you're doing pretty well. You are from time to time >setting yourself goals that make you a pioneer, doing stuff that no one else >has yet tried. As such, your achievements are an impressive testament to your >intuition and dedication. Anyhow, one part of what you are after will definitely be in 5.0.8 - the ability to switch between colour palettes independently of the current theme. I won't promise to get a TWC theme in for 5.0.8 but I will give it a go, Best wishes Jeremy — [email protected] On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Leo Staley <[email protected]> wrote: > I know it's possible. I just do not have the computer programming skills to > make it happen, even after 100 hours of trying to learn CSS, HTML and > TiddlyWiki the past month. > All I want is *3 things which I know are possible.* They're probably even > *EASY > **for those who know what they're doing. * > 1) My 3 columns from the old TiddlyWiki back, (Okay, I also want the topbar > and the columns collapsible, but this has been done already. I can't do it. > (Best Case Scenario would be to have something very close to > http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/)) > 2) A simple, straightforward color scheme that doesn't hurt my eyes, like > current grey one does. (Again, tbGTD is the best i've found, but other dark > ones are great too) > 3) A more compact, tighter presentation in both view and edit mode, without > all of the extra vertical and horizontal empty space, like TWC used to do. > It's not that I dislike the current visual setup of TW5. I just can't even > work in it. I need the old look back. Everything is too vertically > stretched and/or filled with empty space, and or confined too narrowly when > I need it wider. (When I use Preview, the columns are just so *ridiculously > *narrow.) I don't want to have to change the story-river and tiddler width > every single time I use a different monitor! :( > I literally cannot use Tiddlywiki5 as it is currently visually setup. > One major reason I can't even edit it to my needs is because everything is > so radically decentralized and scattered compared to TWC. It's too hard. > Too confusing. Everything in the style sheet(s) has its own specified > colors distinct from the colourmap, and different absolute and fixed and > relative positions and widths distinct from everything else.* So when I try > to experiment with a single change, everything breaks.* > I have tried so hard, and put so many hours of reading into trying to > understand how to do it myself that even I can't believe it. I've analyzed > as much as I can of Ton Gerner's http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/ and I've > figured out more CSS and HTML than I ever wanted to know, But I still don't > know something as simple as how to make the side columns float to their > respective sides instead of having their position properties. > In the process of this though, I wrote out explicitly what I learned about > Ton's buttons. Here that is, in case it helps anybody. > Enter code here... > The Tiddler $:/_topmenu contains the HTML element <div> putting the Left > Toggle Button and Right Toggle Button on the page. > This Tiddler is tagged "$:/tags/PageTemplate" so that it is displayed at > the same level as the story-river and > sidebar-header html elements. > Displayed in that div element are two TiddlyWiki wikified items. The first > transcludes (displays the wikified contents of) > the contents of $:/_top-toggle-left-sidebar-button, and the second > transcludes the contents of $:/_top-toggle-width- > sidebar-button. I'll explain how they function below. > > And directly below that, HTML <div> element putting the breadcrumbs on the > page. > The Tiddler $:/_stylesheet/topmenu contains the CSS stylesheet how to be > "Fixed" on the page and properly interact with the > other elements. I don't understand the "TOP MENU CLEARANCE" part of this > stylesheet. > The buttons work like this: > The Tiddler $:/_top-toggle-left-sidebar-button contains 1) an HTML <span> > element containing a bunch of important TiddlyWiki syntax, > and 2) Some CSS stlying. > The visible content of this is a Button. This button tells tiddlywiki to > add, or remove, the "$:/tags/stylesheet" tag to this tiddler, > so as to toggle whether or not the CSS in this Tiddler is to be used. > When the button is pressed, > this Tiddler is tagged stylesheet, > the Tiddler $:/_leftmenu gets tagged with "$:/tags/PageTemplate", and so > will now be displayed as part of the whole page template, (like the > topmenu). > When the button is pressed again, > the "$:/tags/stylesheet" tag is removed, > and the default value is used instead. The default value is is in the > Tiddler "$:/_stylesheet/leftmenu" which is just > permanently tagged as a stylesheet. > I don't know what the @@ thing is or does. > The $:/_top-toggle-width-sidebar-button does basically the same thing, but > for the other sidebar. (unfortunately, the story river doesn't expand to > fill the whole remaining area when this one is collapsed) > Please. Someone. Help me. I'm begging. I can't write the necessary code. I > can't even edit it. I've been trying. > I know it's not a big deal to anyone here, but I personally can't use TW5 > until I get these things fixed and working, and I've now given up trying. > I've given it my best, but I have to stop now, so if anyone would be kind > enough to spend some time on this for me, I would be so very, inexpressibly > grateful. > If you can't help, I understand. I'm not trying to demand anything from > anyone or insult or offend anyone. > Cheers, > -Leo > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
