The bit at the start of a URL, before the first colon, is called the
protocol. "file://" is just like "http://"; or "ftp://";, it tells the
browser how to go about getting the thing. However browsers try to
make your life easier and often let you leave stuff like the protocol
off. That's why you can type "google.com <http://google.com>" and
your browser guesses you mean http://google.com.
Anyway my Firefox on OSX wants the "file:" in front of a path to a
local file (but OSX doesn't have drive letters, so it's quite
different after that). If you're on windows maybe you don't need the
"file:" prefix, or maybe some browsers will need it and some won't...
bottom line though, if what you have is working, don't worry about the
"file:" bit.
Cheers
Daniel
On 5 August 2014 08:18, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Sorry for being so thick:
This works for me.
/<html>
<a href="///C|/Users/Richard/Desktop/guess3.png"target="blank">
cousins</a>
<html>/
but what do I do with
/
file:///C:/Users/Richard/Videos/OPEN%20HOUSE%20R2P1.mp4/
or
/file:///K:/DCIM/100MEDIA/IMAG0379.jpg/
which has the word "file:", another colon and no pipe, etc?
Rich
On Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:45:15 PM UTC-4, Daniel Baird wrote:
If you use the "open file" menu option of your browser, then
navigate to the file you want and open it, you might be able
to just copy the path from the URL bar (and all the //// and |
etc will be correct).
On 3 August 2014 21:45, <[email protected]> wrote:
I am now able to link to files using absolute
location/reference/path. It appears there may be more
than one way, bbut what worked for me was:
/<html>
<a
href="///C|/Users/Richard/Desktop/guess3.png"target="blank">
cousins</a>
<html>/
Perhaps it will become second nature, but getting the "/"
and the "." and the "|" in the correct place was my
problem. The png file opened in FF; how to get it to open
with some other software I can save until later.
Rich
On Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:02:12 AM UTC-4,
[email protected] wrote:
Success at last.
Separate window means separate Window as in Microsoft
Windows. A browser window is a type of window, but
not what I wanted. For example, what I am able to do
now is have a TWC link suggest software to open a file
(such as xlxs) and it opens in an Excel window. A
linked pdf file is opened in a separate tab using
browser software/add-in. If I need the full set of
Acrobat tools I can download the pdf and operate on it
that way. This is good.
I did not try Daniel Baird's suggestion - was trying
to follow your intial suggestion - /<a
href="pathtoyourpdf.pdf" target="blank">Your Link Text</a>
/I followed your last example - /<a
href="./example.docx" target="blank">link</a> - /after
having co-located the Tiddler and the file and that
worked. I think I understand now that the path is
constructed differently from Windows method - c:\ etc.
- so I think that finally connected in my head. But
have not been able to make an "absolute" reference
work after trying Baird's suggestion.
I chose TWC having been scared off by the "beta"
designation and believing learning would be easier on
a more stable (slower rate of change) software and
with more users to help me. I did use TW a little
several years ago but only as a home page and a place
to store links - before I switched to IGOOGLE (now
defunct).
I now want to explore local webservers, link with
files not in the same directory, and why I should make
a jump to TW5.
Thank you all for your patience and assistance.
/
/
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:49:22 PM UTC-4, Richard
Smith wrote:
I appreciate all the advice - possibly what I
am envisioning is not possible and that leads
to a 2nd question - let me try the 1st
question one more time - can I link to a file
via TWC and have it open in a separate
window? I don't think this is possible. If I
wanted to link to a *.doc WORD document, and
have the link open the doc in MSWORD, a
separate window, can I do this?
Opening in a "separate window" would usually mean
a separate browser window. This usually doesn't
happen in modern browsers because everybody hated
it, but maybe you can turn it back on. If you
create a link to a *.doc file and then click it,
it's your browser that decides what to do. If it's
set to launch 'word' then that's what should happen.
I think I am being told no. Some files - such
as pdf - can be opened in an iframe or even a
second tab (in FF at least) but the browser
needs to have the capability to process the
file type. Is that correct? I think I can
link to other html files and have them open as
a tiddler or even in a different FF frame.
But if the browser cannot process the file
type, not html or pdf, I cannot link to the
file and have it open?
Your browser should know what to do with most file
types. If you have successfully accessed similar
documents on other sites, then it does.
My 2nd question is in here somewhere. In the
current wiki I use (NOT TWC) I can link to an
excel spreadsheet with a link such as
http://libraries.xx.com/download?
fileid=204568254101&entity_id=865987210&sid=101.
The spreadsheet was previously uploaded to the
library and the software there apparently gave
it this url. Protocol is Hyper Text Transfer
Protocol and type is COM/DOWNLOAD File. So
the second question is basically can I create
such a library and store files to which I link
in a form so that they can be opened in a
window driven by the exe that can open the
file? And can I do this on my local PC?
The files on your PC all have local addresses. You
can refer to them absolutely or relative to the
current file, but only on your PC. Did you try
what Daniel Baird suggested?
If you want to access them from other places they
need to be hosted somewhere. Everything that's
hosted has a url. If you want to access the files
on your own machine over http then you will need
to run a local webserver. There is probably one
built in to your operating system, or any number
of other ways to do it.
Try this. Put your tiddlywiki in the same folder
as one of your doc files and write a tiddler that says
<html>
<a href="./example.docx" target="blank">link</a>
</html>
(change example.docx to the name of your file)
Click the link and see what happens. For me,
chrome downloads it and firefox gives me a
dialogue offering to open it in a word processor.
Is there a reason you are using TWC instead of
TW5? I have found the latter to be much nicer to use.
Regards,
Richard
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:15:32 AM UTC-4,
Jeremy Ruston wrote:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Richard
Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
If the files have a url it's easy to
link to them. When I make a
google-drive or dropbox file public, I
get a url like
"https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/booktemplate.html";
I can make a TW link to it like this:
<a
href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/booktemplate.html";
target="blank">My Link</a>
You should also be able to use this syntax:
[ext[my link
text|https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/booktemplate.html]]
Best wishes
Jeremy
If I click the link, the document
opens in a new window. If I want to
save it, I right-click the link and
choose "save-as". You can also open it
in a new window from the same dropdown.
Regards,
Richard
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:12:59 AM
UTC+10, [email protected] wrote:
More input/thoughts - on another
WIKI I use (which I am hoping to
move to TWC) files are located on
a server but have a URL. When I
click on the links to these files
from within the WIKI, i am given
three choices - open, save, or
cancel. The open option opens the
file in a separate window ans uses
the appropriate program for the
file type/extension. Save option
puts the file in any location to
which I have access. Am I asking
too much of TWC to do something
similar? The files I wish to
store and open and link to need to
be uploaded to the server and are
given a URL by the software.
Should I be looking for a way to
store the files that assigns a URL.
Rich
On Wednesday, July 30, 2014
5:14:00 AM UTC-4, [email protected]
wrote:
What I used was:
<a
href="c:\users\richard\documents\mytiddly\stlukeconcertseries.pdf"
target="blank">Your Link Text</a>
This did not open a new
window. This opened a new
tab. This did not open the file.
So I may have another problem
with the file name also. I
can try Daniel Baird's direction.
On Wednesday, July 30, 2014
1:36:39 AM UTC-4, Daniel Baird
wrote:
On 30 July 2014 13:33,
Richard Smith
<[email protected]>
wrote:
[...]
/Firefox doesn't
know how to open
this address,
because one of the
following
protocols (c)
isn't associated
with any program
or is not allowed
in this context.
You might need
to install other
software to open
this address./
hmmm... are you using
an old version of
firefox or on a
corporate network?
Firefox is supposed to
be able to open pdf's
by default now. There
is some more
information here, with
some alternative
solutions.
the bit about "...one of
the following protocols
(c) isn't associated..."
makes it sound like you've
used a Windows style file
path to say where the PDF
file is, starting with the
drive letter, like
C:\whatever.
In a web browser you can't
use paths like that, you
need something more like:
file:///C|/My
Documents/ALetter.html
yes that's triple slashes,
and a pipe character |
instead of a colon : .
Cheers
Daniel
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