Tobias and Danielo - thanks for your compliments. Maitland:
TiddlySpace is a very strange website, compared to other services like > Twitter or Tumblr. When I included the Spaces called faq and following, it > changes the appearance of my home Space. It appears that new features, > plugin's, and basic functions are added when you include different Spaces > into you're own. Twitter or Tumblr are not very good comparisons. TiddlySpace is another concept. And, yes, as you note, when you include another space it's features and plugins are added to your own. However, note that the order in which things are included is important. They are executed from top -down in the "Included spaces" list. > *The Definition of a Space*: A Space is an online Wiki that may be > controlled by a single user, or with other members. The name of the Space > which the user created upon registering, can be considered to be their > username. But the Space and a user's account are two separate things. A > user can see their account by clicking on the fish-egg symbol in the > top-right corner. From there, a user can create a new Space. > Yes IMO this is a good description (I wouldn't call it a *definition* because you include some side information, but anyway). Another way to create a new space is to somply type it in the url, ie: <newspacename>.tiddlyspace.com and, ah just test it. > But in the documentation, it says that the term 'User' refers to their > 'Home Space'. But what would happen if the user was removed from their home > Space (The first Space they started with)? > I actually don't know. But instead of sharing your account space with others, just create a new space and share that. Note that everyone who shares a space has the possibility to exclude other members. Do you have a "Space" that I can find? If so, then maybe we can work > together on it? My TiddlySpace <http://theinvertedtower.tiddlyspace.com/> > An idea might be for you to create a new space and then include my theme-a <http://theme-a.tiddlyspace.com/>. (I hope it still works without problems.) > TiddlySpace Documentation → User Guides → Socializing On Tiddly Space → > How to Follow User or Space Activity <http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/> > > I still want to know how to add features (Plug-in's?) and change it's > appearance (Such as the themes other people use). However, this seems to > require a good understanding of how HTML is applied. > No, no HTML. You just use inclusion. TS unfortunately suffers from the same problem TWC does, i.e that you don't know where to find those other plugins and themes. You must pretty much surf around or ask here on the boards etc. But even if you couldn't include spaces, there would still not really be any understanding of HTML required. It's typically just to copy-paste the content from tiddler in other spaces into your own. Open edit view, copy, go over to your space, create new tiddler, paste etc. Note that the tags can be crucial, such as the systemConfig tag. > Is their a way you can include individual Tiddlers from other Spaces, > besides making a copy of them? So if it becomes edited by it's User, it > will be updated on you're own Space? > This happens when you include another space. But *individual* tiddlers, as far as I remember, the TS system does not have a special ready made function for this. > Also, is there someone else who could help? > > I don't know how many times Google+ will let me post the same link to my > Space, before it considers it spam. So it'll help if you could spread the > word. > Spread the word? You cannot count on anyone doing that for you. Besides, why would you want to spread it at this very rough stage? Ok, hope this helps. A nice aspect with TS is that you can really create a zillion spaces as you experiment. Also, this is not really the place for TS specific questions. Go here <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlyspace> instead. But do note that there is currently no development so it's not a very active list. <:-) On Sunday, December 7, 2014 3:26:50 AM UTC+8, Mat wrote: > > @Maitland Gill > > It is important to note that there are significant differences between > TiddlyWiki, TiddlyWikiClassic and TiddlySpace. > > TiddlyWikiClassic (TWC) used to be "the only TiddlyWiki" and therefore > simply known as TiddlyWiki at that time(!). Now when people say TiddlyWiki, > they typically refer to the major reworked version TiddlyWiki5 (TW5). In > other words: When people say TW they nowadays mean TW5. More on TW(...5) > below. > > A few years back came an exciting service known as TiddlySpace (TS) where > you could easily set up on-line tiddlywikis for collaboration. The > tiddlywikis here were build with a very different architecture from TWC, > focussing more on individual tiddlers than the whole wiki. For instance, > where TWC has a kind of top down approach, i.e "a wiki with tiddlers", TS > tiddlywikis are more centered around individual tiddlers - "tiddlers > combined into a wiki". One major difference is that in a TS tiddlywiki you > can *include* other peoples tiddlers into your own wiki, "live", so that > changes they make also affect yours. > > As you note, you can also "communicate" with others in TS. I would say you > shouldn't bother with this though, at this stage. It won't be worth the > effort, at this stage. > > Unfortunately the architectural differences between a TS wiki and TWC > means that a lot of what can be done in TS cannot be done with a TWC. > (However, most of what you can do in TWC can also be done in TS.) > > A year or so ago, TW inventor and chief developer Jeremy Ruston presented > brought out a new brain child from his crypt; TiddlyWiki5 (the "5" refers > to that it is built on/for html5 if I understand correctly). This is a > total rework of TWC. While it has obvious similiartities to the eye, it is > constructed in a whole other (and superior) way so you can't use any of the > plugins and things from TWC other than perhaps the actual text in a TWC > tiddler. Again, this is where the original TiddlyWiki changed name into > TiddlyWikiClassic and this new creation is gradually taking over the name > TiddlyWiki. TW(5) is the architecture we will keep "for the coming 25 > years"! Yes, it is that good ;-) > > Based on what you write here and in the TS-link you provide, I would > suggest that you focus on TW5 and simply keep on playing around. You do > mention collaboration as a goal with TW for you and while TS currently is > the best solution for that I would say it is not a 100% satisfying one. A > simple alternative could perhaps be to just store a TW(5) in a shared > dropbox or google drive folder. Still not a 100% solution, but one major > difference is that TW is being developed and there are steps towards more > collaborative setups. > > As you play around more and hang around here you will find that some of > your questions are a bit odd in that you're focussing on things that are > not very important or that can be considered a bit obscure for someone at > your stage. For instance, text formatting with html in TW is in deed > possible, but you'd primarily use other ways both in TWC/TS and TW5. > > Ok, I probably don't answer your very questions but this gives you a > background that IMO is of more value. > > All best > > <:-) > > > > On Saturday, December 6, 2014 6:48:11 PM UTC+1, Maitland Gill wrote: >> >> I've been working on a guide, so that newcomers like myself know how to >> use TiddlyWiki. However, I've reached a point where I can't go any further >> without some help. Everything I understand so far, can be seen here: >> http://theinvertedtower.tiddlyspace.com/Detailed%20instructions%20on%20how%20to%20use%20and%20modify%20TiddlyWiki >> >> I don't really know how to use TiddlySpace, or Plugin's, or even how to >> connect with other users. What do you think we need to work on? >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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