Hi Andrew, > Am I supposed to do something so that my site is listed on Tiddlywiki.com > and so that other people can reuse or abuse my stuff? I always assumed it > was a given that if it was on a site created using Tiddlywiki or in an > email from a thread in the tiddlywiki google group that it was free. >
And that's why I am not much of a friend of these debates. Perhaps that is a reason to show some license information: to give you a sense of security over whether or not it's ok to use and reuse, even commercialise whatever you may find, and to what degree. But: How would I know? Do I have to? Again, to me that is entirely a given unless I or anyone else explicitly state — in a legally binding way — that that is not the case and that I am a copyright holder indeed, exerting "intellectual property" rights. I never do that as I don't support the general idea of "intellectual property" at all, even if I was to try and monetize anything. That may be stupid, but ok. It's rather about whether or not people wish to contribute, rather than me trying to force them to. Sure, not declaring that licensing information may make it difficult to figure out if it's ok to reuse stuff as a visitor, but then you do see at every other site some unspecific copyright notice like *© MySite* whereas, chances are, that copyright does not mean much and certainly does not stretch to all you see on that site. With the scope of a copyright being entirely undeclared, it's really invalid, only giving an illusion that whatever you see is somehow protected. Of course, for a project like TiddlyWiki itself — which might involve a range of legal implications whenever it's being used by someone — it's a wise thing to subscribe to a license and thus also give a user the security over what is allowed and how and what warranties come attached with that "product". But that is not so for just any content. Put to an extreme: I don't walk about the earth with a copyright notice to my every word. So, here's my stance (and I'm not inclined to change it just yet): if you don't find a (prominently visible!) copyright notice or license, you're good to go. Period. However, you could possibly, potentially, unknowingly be violating someone else's copyrights that the content provider was violating. But then, that is true for any content, whether it was given with an expressed license or not. Just to be clear, if someone asks me to respect their "intellectual property" I'm totally fine with that and gladly pass that on / respect it. So, to cut that long story short: Please do use. If there ever was a moment when someone claimed a (restrictive) license to those taglines or the macro that shows them, then I think we may have gone down the wrong path. However, if the community decided that tagline X was to be something official, even protected, then that would also be fine... as the purpose of this macro, as you see it, is to cater precisely for that function of promoting tiddlywiki, so it wouldn't even be violating anything... unless someone came and also claimed that only TiddlyWiki was allowed to promote TiddlyWiki. Ah, so much fun. :D Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

