On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:50:37 AM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> I like the concept.
> But definitely two good, albeit separate ideas.
>
> *toolbar*
>  
> I would only show the most common markup by default, at most 7 buttons.
> Nothing like sub- or superscript.
> Some reveal button could show an extended toolbar when clicked.
>

I notice that the Google groups toolbar has 19 icons/elements on it and 
though it does seem a bit much it isn't as excessive as a Microsoft Office 
product. There may be a key idea there though. If you only showed 7 or so 
at a time, it would definitely be cleaner. I rarely use the subscript or 
superscript but the bookmarklets existed so I converted them and assigned 
them to the toolbar to test my work.
 

> Which buttons are standard and which are extended,
> can be overrun in the control-panel.
>
> *help*
>
> Next to *preview* there's a *tiddler* tab...
> I presume that was an accident?
>

The tiddler tab is part of the kludge work-around to make the thing 
functional. It would definitely not be part of a TiddlyWiki internal editor 
if I could make it work. In this prototype, it is your main interface with 
the main wiki.
 

> Personally, I don't like (to use) preview, at all,
> So it's a no-go for me to have it always shown.
>

I agree that the preview should be optional since there are many times the 
real estate is worth more than the cost of the constantly updating preview. 
I assume that you would rarely use the Help either. I haven't mastered the 
combination of the reveal button and the expansion of the iframe to fill 
the available area. That wasn't relevant to the ideas so I put this up 
without solving that first.
 

> I would simply have two link-buttons just as there is one right now, not 
> tab buttons,
> conditionally revealing *either* help or preview in the same pane,
> the active button / link being highlighted where clicked.
>

That works as well. Tabs were easier to do quickly on a concept basis.
 

> As for the markup reference, I would definitely prefer to
> search / filter for the markup I need rather than tabs.
>
> Tabs in a narrow space look ugly and don't make searching easy,
> especially not when there are 10+ of them.
> Rather, use a select box.
>

I would definitely limit the number of tabs to a handful since something 
with dozens tend to simply become a cloud. The only problem with a Search 
filter is that you have to come up with the right word to have a chance of 
finding what you want. Search for "Underscore" and you won't find 
"underline." But show a selectbox that has "underline" as a choice, and the 
user will have no problem finding what they want. 

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