Hi David, On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 8:25:54 PM UTC+1, David Bakin wrote: > > I am a happy user of TWC. Every few months I check this group to see how > TW5 is coming along and I was very happy to read this message - until I > released it was 3 months old. Has this moratorium paid off? Is there > documentation and a plugin list for new users? I hope so! >
IMO documentation improved, but there will be never enough. So feedback and help is very welcome! There has been some development according to the plugin library and the possibility to install plugins from the web within a file TW. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7tRvAj1ZG9s#t=1492 The upcoming 5.1.8 version will have a basic core plugin library manager. The tiddlywiki community tiddler <http://tiddlywiki.com/#Community>and Tobi Beers TW <http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Welcome> will be good starting points. > Here's my state: I have several useful TWC wikis in progress ... some > have several hundred tiddlers. Even though there's very little theming > done I have only read that a) TWC tiddlers can't be directly imported to > TW5 and b) there's a tool "in progress" that will convert "most" tiddlers > (but no specification of what gets converted and what doesn't). > TW will import TWC tiddlers as mime type text/x-tiddlywiki, which are shown as plain text by TW. ... There is a button, that lets you set the type to text/vnd.tiddlywiki. ... but the formatting will be broken since TW uses a slightly different wiki text. Most noticeable will be, that TWC wasn't able to create proper paragraphs. TW5 will need 2 newlines to indicate the beginning of a new paragraph. 1 newline will be ignored. ... There is an edit toolbar plugin from Stephen http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/ that can help you adjust text for TW. > I'm willing to learn the new markup language, and in fact, I'm willing to > start new wikis from scratch (new topics) but my blocking issue is that I > do rely on several TWC plugins and I have no idea what the equivalent is in > TW5 or if it is available. So in the interests of progressing, I hope > you'll be able to answer for me what the equivalent of the following is in > TW5 or what I should be doing instead: > > a) The single most important plugin I use is SharedTiddlers, which lets me > have a "base" wiki which contains nearly all the plugins I use (except > SharedTiddlers itself...) and then a bunch of topic wikis that refer to the > "base" for all enhancments ... plugins, configuration, etc. That way > when I introduce a new plugin to my repertoire ... or a plugin is upgraded > ... I do it in one place - base.html - and it is available in all my wikis > instantly and automatically. Does SharedTiddlers exist in TW5 or is there > another way to get this vital functionality? > There is no SharedTiddlers equivalent. ... But TiddlyDesktop <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop>may be interesting. > b) TextArea - to adjust the size of the area of the new tiddler I'm > creating. > Just go to tiddlywiki.com edit a tiddler and have a look, if it does what you want. .. I don't know, what you want here. > c) RearrangeTiddlers - I just like to organize several tiddlers I'm > reading at the moment. > There is no drag and drop functionality in the core atm but the feature is requested very often. > d) ForEachTiddler - I've written little utilities like a macro that > deletes all tiddlers with a given tag. > list macros and list widget can do all the things and a lot more, without javascript programming. Have a look at Tobie Beers site. > e) DisableWikiLinks - sometimes it's more convenient than using individual > markup > Every parser rule has its own unique name. eg: bold So if you start a tiddler with \rule except bold This tiddler will ignore the ''bold'' formatting rule. The opposite is: \rules only bold italic underscore So only bold italic and underscore will be recogniced. .... So there are a lot of possibilities. > f) MathJax - I can move up to KaTeX ... I assume the markup to signal TeX > is similar, so this probably isn't a problem. > There is a KaTeX plugin. > Really, the lack of documentation and the different plugin support are the > major major blockers for me. I just isn't practical to search google > groups to find answers to questions like "what's available" - things are so > scattered. > Giving proper feedback and help out is highly appreciated and highly needed. We just don't have enough man power. > I will very much appreciate your help in getting me going on TW5 by > letting me know what the right way to handle each of the needs that the > above TWC plugins do for me. And also, am I right that I might as well NOT > convert my old TWC wikis? > If TWC works for you stay with it for your "working stuff" and try to use TW5 for new wikis. .. IMO that's the best way to start. > Or does the tool to do the conversion actual exist and work? > IMO it will never exist. There are some helpers. see Stephens toolbar plugin, but IMO manual work will always need to be done. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. 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