Jed,

I think the long term way / way of getting data into TW (for me) will be
from a dropbox using node, not in one step from into a TW in the browser. I
think its getting the plain text (written in the wonderful TW wikitext )
"safe" as quick as possible. I think the most resilient gene coming out of
TW is the wiki text and how macros and trasculsion have crossed the coder /
user barrier.

I was interested to read an article about producing static websites though
a template tiddler (I don't think it was your;s Jed).

I have been thinking about using TW for a new project, hosted on a "proper"
URL. For the person familiar with facebook, flicking though stuff on a
phone, they don't want to be closing tiddlers when they have read them, I
think static sites for from TW is probably going to be the most sensible
way of working with folk like this: they are scanning text all the time,
swiping the screen, not clicking so much.

Turning it on its head again, a TW site could be static first, then link to
tiddlywiki webpages with their own URL. These TW could be small TWs but a
more detailed and linked part of the static. The reader gets supper simple
HTML first, then can get the detail.... a comfortable ride though the
complexity.

propperurl.com/hello-there.html -- static page
propperurl.com/hello-there/tw.html -- tiddlywiki from which static was
generated.

I am staring to think that to be readable by a non TW user, static sites
are the way to go... at least for the "first scan"

Alex

On 21 June 2015 at 00:27, Jed Carty <[email protected]> wrote:

> I completely agree with the facebook comment-like tiddler creation as an
> option, having it turned on all the time would be a problem, but that is
> definitely a desirable feature. That is what the fast new tiddler tool that
> Mat is working on will do, or something similar at least.
>
> The good news is that facebook has (or at least had, I haven't looked in a
> while) an api for pulling data (posts, comments, likes, etc.) off of their
> site, and with JavaScript you may be able to get tiddlywiki to pull the
> data and put it into a tiddler.
> The bad news is that facebook changes their api constantly, makes it
> horribly complex and doesn't write usable documentation. I tried to write
> something to get tiddlywiki to interface with facebook the way I made it
> send things to twitter and failed miserably. Their documentation may be
> designed to remove all joy from the world. I have heard from people who
> have much stronger backgrounds in JavaScript and related technologies than
> I do that they have the same problems with the facebook api, so getting it
> to work will probably require significant effort and luck.
>
> Google does have a gmail api <https://developers.google.com/gmail/api/>
> that may let you pull emails from your inbox, and I think that the data is
> in json format so it would play well with tiddlywiki.
>
> From what I have seen the large social media sites are trying to move away
> from letting people access their apis for personal use. For most things
> facebook requires an id that they have to approve, google may do the same
> thing, so even if we can make this work now I think that there is a good
> chance that some change in the future would prevent it from being possible.
>
> Even with that problem I would like to find ways to make tiddlywiki play
> well with everything, even if it is just through something like the widgets
> twitter uses.
>
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