Hi Leo,

I would really like to see your example, do you have one on Tiddlyspot?

I did try myself. It is not what you want, but maybe you can change that 
yourself. http://test-button.tiddlyspot.com/


Birthe


Den fredag den 26. juni 2015 kl. 08.08.37 UTC+2 skrev Leo Staley:
>
> I *really *don't like using icons for controls (in any app, really), 
> either page or tiddler controls, and I would rather have buttons with text 
> instead for nearly everything. 
>
> Unfortunately, currently, changing options so as to to remove icons and 
> use text instead introduces a number of *serious *visual problems
>
> 1. The buttons' font size are WAY too big, and take up way too much space 
> (especially page controls), 
> 2. They don't don't look much like buttons should, and 
> 3. They have no reaction on mouse hover.
>
> Personally, as my own example, I'd like to have the following css for the 
> text of control buttons (page and tiddler) be close to something like this: 
>
> Normal  
>   font-size: 16px;
>   font-weight: normal;
>   border: 1px solid
>   padding: 0 4px 0 4px;
>
> On hover 
>   font-size: 16px;
>   font-weight: bold;  
>   border: 2px solid
>   padding: 0 4px 0 4px;
>
>   
>
>
> In a most haphazard way, I figured out a few steps for how to make these 
> apply to the toolbar buttons and the page control buttons, but I can't 
> figure out 1) how to make them change on hover like with icons, and 2) I 
> don't know how to make it change the text displayed for a button, if, for 
> example, I wanted to shorten "control panel" to "settings" or "save 
> changes" to "save".
>
> I'd like to use em instead of px, but can't get it to work for the tiddler 
> controls in view mode if i do. Unfortunately, doing it with px makes the 
> "more" dropdown text go super tiny. arg.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your time!
>

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