Maybe you can add the tag as used in github - that would clearly define the 
limits.

On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 8:17:17 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Jed
>
> I think you are onto something important here. You're right that the way 
> that the core license appears at the moment gives it the apparent scope of 
> the entire file, including the content. So, I'd agree that there's a 
> potential issue here; we won't make things worse by not doing anything, but 
> there is a good opportunity to try to make things better.
>
> I wonder whether there is any kind of precedent from the pre-digital age. 
> Perhaps a book that includes blank spaces that are explicitly intended for 
> the reader/user to write their own content, like a baby book for parents to 
> fill in the details of their child. Presumably the copyright in the 
> illustrations and pre-printed text would be independent of the users 
> copyright in their own content.
>
> I like the idea of prompting users to select a license for their content, 
> and and then baking their choice into the head of the HTML file.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:03 PM, Jed Carty <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Working on the resume builder edition has made me think about tiddlywiki 
>> and licensing in the context of an extensible single page application. From 
>> what I have seen none of the existing software licenses cover the cases of 
>> a plugin architecture in a single page application. For most current 
>> plugins the authors seem to be at least comfortable with the idea of their 
>> work being free software <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software>, 
>> I think this is a good thing and, if a license is needed, I want plugins I 
>> make to have a permissive license.
>>
>> The problem as I see it comes in when you consider that TiddlyWiki can be 
>> used to make creative works where there should be some distinction between 
>> tiddlywiki as the container and the content created. The license currently 
>> says
>>
>> Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without 
>> modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
>>
>> Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, 
>> this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>>
>> Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, 
>> this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation 
>> and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>>
>>
>> which, as far as the TiddlyWiki core itself is concerned is a good thing 
>> in my opinion. But in the case of the resume builder, since tiddlywiki is a 
>> single page application, the license would apply to the content (your 
>> resume) as well which is probably not a desirable situation. For the resume 
>> builder this isn't really a problem because it would most likely be used 
>> offline and the output would presumably be a pdf which wouldn't be subject 
>> to the same license, but for something like the interactive fiction engine 
>> I made there isn't any way using the currently available software licenses 
>> to make a distinction between the tool and a game that someone makes using 
>> the tool. I would like TiddlyWiki to be usable as an authoring tool for 
>> creative content, and I would like the authors of that content to be able 
>> to use their work in a commercial context, but unless some distinction is 
>> made between tiddlywiki and content created using tiddlywiki than that 
>> isn't practical.
>>
>>
>> I think that it would make sense in terms of creative control to be able 
>> to distinguish between the tiddlywiki core, plugins, and wiki content for 
>> the purposes of licensing.
>> This also comes up because, while I don't think that it really grants or 
>> removes any user rights compared to those given by the tiddlywiki license, 
>> I would like to give the content of the wiki reference wiki a creative 
>> commons license just so there isn't any question about people being able to 
>> use or copy what I put on it.
>>
>> I don't think that we have anyone who is familiar with the legal issues 
>> surrounding this, but if anyone does know I would be interested to hear 
>> about if separating the different parts of tiddlywiki like this would be 
>> possible.
>>
>> I wrote some other thoughts about this and the problems making a 
>> distinction between the different parts of tiddlywiki here 
>> <http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Thoughts%20about%20TiddlyWiki%20and%20Licensing>
>> .
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