Hi *Jeremy*, Yes, thanks, that simple change of wording in the official docs would make a lot more sense of this to me. I won't go making a pull request just for that though. But the next time I do, if I remember, I'll add it to the PR if it hasn't been done already.
Thanks, Hegart. On Tuesday, 29 September 2015 04:56:03 UTC+13, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Hi Hegart > > Thanks for explaining that. Doesn't having the core as a plugin contradict >> the very nature of a plugin, which you describe in the official docs as >> *"Plugins >> are used to distribute optional, custom components for TiddlyWiki >> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki>"*, (emphasis mine). I would have >> thought that the core itself is not optional, thus it shouldn't be >> described as a plugin. It seems confusing to me. >> > > Perhaps it should say "plugins can be used to distribute optional, custom > components" to make it clearer that not all plugins are for that purpose. > > Plugins are a general purpose mechanism for packing multiple tiddlers into > the same container tiddler. They are used for a number of different > purposes around the system, but their behaviour is always the same: when > activated, their payload tiddlers become visible as shadow tiddlers. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy. > > > >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Hegart. >> >> >> On Monday, 28 September 2015 11:15:20 UTC+13, Jeremy Ruston wrote: >>> >>> Hi Hegart >>> >>> The missing piece is that there is a plugin called $:/core that contains >>> the main core code of TiddlyWiki. It is always present, and it is the >>> source of the shadow tiddlers you are seeing. You can see it listed in the >>> "Plugins" tab of the control panel. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Jeremy. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Hegart Dmishiv <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've been looking back over ShadowTiddlers >>>> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#ShadowTiddlers> again in the official TW5 >>>> docs, trying to get a handle on all of this. It says *"ShadowTiddlers >>>> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#ShadowTiddlers> are tiddlers that are loaded from >>>> within Plugins <http://tiddlywiki.com/#Plugins>."* Looking at the >>>> Plugins tiddler in the docs, I see a list of available plugins. From the >>>> description of *"Plugins are used to distribute optional, custom >>>> components for TiddlyWiki <http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki>."* I >>>> assume I have to install a plugin myself for it to work, right? A bit like >>>> the extensions <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions> for >>>> MediaWiki. As far as I know, I haven't installed any plugins for TW5. >>>> Haha, >>>> I wouldn't even know how to yet! So where do these Shadow Tiddlers come >>>> from, from which plugins, if I haven't installed any plugins yet? >>>> >>>> I see a huge list of *"current shadow tiddlers"* listed on the >>>> ShadowTiddlers tiddler in the official docs. At first I assumed that these >>>> are only the shadow tiddlers for plugins which are installed in the TW >>>> wiki >>>> instance at tiddlywiki.com, but then I copied the <$list> filter from >>>> the code on that page, into a new tiddler in my own instance of TW5 and >>>> got >>>> the same results (or near enough, a huge long list) as what I saw on >>>> tiddlywiki.com. >>>> >>>> So now I'm even more confused: >>>> >>>> 1. The docs say that shadow tiddlers come from plugins. >>>> 2. I haven't installed any plugins. >>>> 3. I have shadow tiddlers anyway. >>>> >>>> Can anyone explain this to me better, and maybe we can get the official >>>> docs updated, or maybe there needs to be a "TiddlyWiki for Dummies" book. >>>> I >>>> saw *@Eric*'s IndieGoGo page >>>> <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/inside-tiddlywiki-the-missing-manual#/story>, >>>> >>>> but that campaign had closed long before I had even heard about >>>> TiddlyWiki. >>>> Not that I could have afforded to contribute much, anyway, sorry. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/be9563c7-45ad-472e-9ad4-0f275c59b71e%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/be9563c7-45ad-472e-9ad4-0f275c59b71e%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeremy Ruston >>> mailto:[email protected] >>> >> > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:[email protected] <javascript:> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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