Hi Tobias

There seems to be a problem when using the existing filter set for user 
lists.

An equivalent filter for "[tag[mytag]]" is straightforward: 
"[[mytag]listed[mylist]]". But the negated equivalent of "[!tag[mytag]]" is 
difficult to replicate:
 "[[mytag]!listed[mylist]]" seems like it should work, but doesn't.

I haven't tried to replicate more complex filters, as even simple cases 
appear to fail. Perhaps you have a general method for developing such 
filters with the existing filter set?

regards

On Monday, 12 October 2015 08:32:06 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Metabele / Jed,
>  
>
>> I had a look at your contribution -- I think a special purpose widget for 
>> the manipulation of lists would be preferable to  extending the 
>> $action-setfield widget. There is clearly a need for multiple lists with 
>> functionality akin to that of the 'tags' field -- but how to best implement 
>> this is unclear to me.
>>
>
> As you have seen, I'm all for extending the action-setwidget as the 
> codebase is basically the same and then some... so big chunks will need 
> duplication. Except, I have not studied yet as to how one widget can use 
> another as a base class... then that might be an option, albeit all the 
> more complex.
>
> There are many different possibilities for order in a list -- my proposal 
>> is to use filter expressions to order the list
>>
>
> That sounds like an interesting idea, especially for persist-sorting.
>
> -- how many other possibilities for order are desirable?
>>
>
> Whatever core filters are available.
>  
>
>> -- can the existing filters be modified/extended to achieve this?
>>
>
> What needs extending? Afaics, you simply work the filter on your list 
> items and that's it.
>
> -- are multiple instances of the same string necessary in a list 
>> (currently only one is permitted)?
>>
>
> I would perhaps not start with that for now.
> Maybe later if someone truly needs a *basket: coffee coffee coffee* field.
>
> -- if so -- what for?
>>
>
> It could be a sequence of sorts, e.g. some log of what happened or some 
> instructions of what to do, like moves, e.g. *UP UP RIGHT UP LEFT UP*.
>
> -- would users prefer the widget to allow for the addition/removal of 
>> multiple tags (like my $x-setrefs widget)?
>>
>
> With a simple syntax to do that, sure.
> Perhaps it can be designed to begin with having more of a VarsWidget than 
> a SetWidget approach in mind.
>
> For example, if it had a *$remove* attribute this could, by default be 
> interpreted as a bracketedList, so you can tell it to remove a number of 
> items, same with *$add*. Actually, perhaps it could even be filter 
> strings as well, e.g: *$remove="[prefix[#]]"*. I think that's the most 
> flexible... and clean, e.g. "remove any status tags".
>
> I became bogged down with possibilities and needed some feedback.
>
>
> :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb 
>

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