Hi Mat,
> But I realized something; The rating and starts would themselves not
> necessarily be linked to anything - they should just show up in a tiddler.
> So an alternative to get user ratings and show averages would be to embed a
> simple google form in a small iframe. This would mean it is not using your
> neat star rating solution :-(
>
Indeed, that would be quite a different rating solution! ...where the
ratings are actually not part of the wiki, unless you were to import them
from some external service regularly... or be able to load them like you'd
load twitter posts or disqus.
I guess what's required is some service (or chain of services):
1. to which we can forward (structured) emails
- posted from our wiki to our inbox via sth like http://formspree.io
2. which can be taught to read data from those emails
3. store the corresponding ratings (or other stuff like comments) to an
adequate data store
- should be one store per online wiki, each tiddler being an index
4. retrieve ratings from the service
- either retrieved as the entire list (possibly best for something as
simple as ratings, on startup)
- each rating individually (when displaying a tiddler ...more
requests to the server)
5. displayed in the view-template
If we could get something like this going then it would provide a great
reference solution / scaffold for other solutions of this nature, e.g.
polls. comments, etc...
and it would also mean it's not with pretty stars for voting, the closest I
> find is a row of radio button circles, but I think displaying the result
> should be fairly simple to get as stars ("if avg between x and y, then show
> image 1" etc).
>
Actually, we are free to design the form template used to send those emails
any way we like! You can actually use tobibeer/rate
<http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#rate> to set the rating, and then
read it in the form used to send via email. Of course, this rating would
not be persisted (per user) unless we also saved it as a cookie.
Anyway, displaying server ratings (on top) would be quite a different task.
Look at imdb... if you're logged in, you see your own rating of a movie. If
not, you see the ratings of others. Well, you can see the overall rating in
a star, e.g. *{8.1}*.
In any case, I don't think we should (or can) take it as far as displaying
to a visitor who rated our tiddler from a given IP ...the rating they
assigned (except for the lifetime of a cookie, bah). What's more, an IP
address is not a reliable indicator of an actual user... and with
TiddlyWiki we do not have authenticated visitors, e.g. via oAuth or the
likes... not that it's not possible... but the whole process would have to
be thoroughly designed.
Personally, I would never allow anyone to interact with my site / wiki
unless they did some basic authentication first, e.g. log in via google /
facebook ...or any other authentication provider. But, these things turn
out to be not exactly "Hello World" type projects. Something as basic as
authentication may actually need quite a bit of code before you can be sure
you know who's talking to you (in the context of your wiki) and who wants
to participate via... email, ratings, polls, comments... and to make all
that terrifically difficult, it would all rely on relaying emails to a
service or services that...
- know what to do with those emails
- can be talked to so as to respond with whatever we instructed the
service(s) to do with those data
And the "processing", i.e calculating the average is trivial using google
> forms (since it is connected to a spreadsheet).
> I'll look into the matter when I have a proper moment to set aside for it.
>
Well, in any case, good luck!
Best wishes,
Tobias.
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