Hi Carlos, So far all of the comments I've read about it have been that it is fairly > good to use, except it is not compatible with collaborative projects, so > hence some people sort of shy away from it and try dokuwiki/mediawiki > instead for work related activities. >
Yap, I agree that is an issue for many people. Jeremy wants to tackle that (see "Multiuser" in his roadmap: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/vfdL5hwf7KM/hfQIlGCTEwAJ). Also Jed came up with a very promising idea/prototype for sharing tiddlers between wiki in a peer2peer way. > It was really after reading up on the plugin TiddlyMap that really drew me > in - > Great to hear that :) > and it got me thinking, what if more than one user can draw on a given > mindmap at the same time? Imagine starting up a meeting […] > Here is what is possible with TiddlyMap (and how) and what is not: *Scenario 1* - A wiki is hosted on a server and all meeting participants work on the same wiki and thus on the same mind map. Not possible at the moment: The main problem here is that TW is not a multiuser client-server app that instantly syncs changes to the clients. An explanation There are several mind-map/concept-map tools out there that allow you to create maps simultaneously together and what makes it work, is that the map is centrally hosted. Like in an online game, each client sends data about its actions to the server and the server updates the map and sends back the new map to all other clients. This way all clients can see and interact with the same version. So if TiddlyWiki became a multi-user server where changes are instantly synced to all other clients (with no delay) then there is a good chance to make this possible at some point. For TiddlyMap, this would only mean to rebuild its caching policy (so that the cache is rebuild when external changes arrive from the server). *Scenario 2* - A wiki is *not* hosted on a server and all meeting participants work on their own wiki with different mind maps being kept in sync. An attempt to synchronize maps here would be extremely difficult. In contrast to a server solution (scenario 1), a peer2peer synchronization (e.g. using the TW "federation" paradigm) will not work out of the box for tiddlymap as the users would not operate on the same wiki hosted by a single server, but on completely different wikis having different views, styles, positions, edge types etc. This means that conflicts can arise if two users try to operate on the same data. With a server, this cannot happen because it is first-come first-serve. *Scenario 3* - A wiki is *not* hosted on a server and all meeting participants create tiddlers but *only one* person is responsible for creating a map. That would work extremely fine with the "federation" idea. All participants would just need to tag their tiddlers e.g. "meeting1" and the mind map creator would just pull the tiddlers from the participant's wikis at the end of the meeting and assemble the map. Without "federations", the moderator could still do it by asking all participants to export their tiddlers tagged with "meeting1" and put them in a dropbox. The moderator would then need to import them and create the map. *Scenario 4* - Face2face meeting + projector By the way, in a face2face meeting, you could use a projector and TiddlyMap in fullscreen mode ;) > Right now I think most visualization tiddler plugins requires a moderate > amount of programming to show decent visuals, but TiddlyMap seems to bypass > all of that through a neat little GUI, which I believe helps a lot for > notetaking and jotting down thoughts. > Thanks for the feedback. Hope to release v0.11.0 soon which contains a lot of fixes and improvements (see https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TiddlyMap/issues for more infos). -Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2830dece-dfdf-4343-8e01-b80ecab9b663%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
