I'm obviously missing something but I can't make any of the new icons 
appear on the editor toolbar. They, and indeed everything besides H4, H5 
and H6, appear to be selected on the Control Panel Text Editor Toolbar 
section, but nothing I've tried makes them appear. 

What am I missing?

On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 4:15:55 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone for the feedback - and particular congratulations to 
> Andrew Harrison for the “reduce” button. I’ve answered comments from Mat, 
> Knut and Stephen below.
>
> I’ve uploaded a bunch of new changes to GitHub and to the preview:
>
> * Improved bitmap editing functionality, including:
> ** selectable colours with a new reusable colour picker
> ** selectable painting width
> ** selectable opacity
> ** clear image to colour
> ** resize the image
> * New button for switching the text editor between automatic resizing and 
> a fixed height
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2315
>
> http://rich-text-editor.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> > edit mode text toolbar could really be a general platform for 
> manipulating edit mode content, something that we have not really had thus 
> far.
>
> That is correct. The mechanism isn’t specific to wikitext. I plan to add 
> suitable buttons to the Markdown plugin, for example, and as you suggest, 
> the KaTeX and Railroad plugin could ship with it’s own toolbar buttons too.
>
> > Another valuable tool type would be a kind of fold/unfold, possibly 
> using the revealwidget and similar to Erics old NestedSlidersplugin (an 
> absolute favourite of mine in TWC); I.e select a text portion and click a 
> text editor tool to have the selection surrounded with the necessary reveal 
> mechanism. The resulting view mode button and the content text could be of 
> different kinds:
>
> You could build that button based on the existing “bold” button.
>
> > IMO to hide/reveal parts in content is very powerful concept for text 
> (hypertext?) - i.e for conveying a message with text in the most efficient 
> way. It lets you design a text that turns to readers of different levels in 
> a much(!) more elegant way than common hyperlinking does; instead of 
> jumping away from the text for more in-depth, it lets you access depth in 
> place. (One could even imagine a text where a reader fills in at what level 
> he wants the text - "summary", "overview", "in-depth but with highlighted 
> basic concepts"... - and this sets the depth for the reveals. Or the system 
> stores depth level from previous use and uses this as default.)
>
> The concept of “stretchtext” in classical hypertext is pretty close to 
> what you’re getting at:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StretchText
>
> > Hide/reveal is IMO also generally underused in hypertext, probably 
> because there is no standard html construct for it. In TW we do have the 
> revealwidget but this is IMO much to complex to apply - compare it to the 
> simplicity in adding a link, or a transclusion.
>
> We have discussed before adding wikitext syntax for a hide/reveal pair, 
> it’s an interesting idea.
>
> > I might have missed it before or there is a new tool to the right of the 
> Redo button; it seems to be something to insert/control the vertical 
> distance between two sections (great idea). I don't get it to work though 
> (FF nor Chrome, win10) and the popup looks a bit rough with very airy 
> squares stating a pixel number.
>
> It was actually the embryonic control for setting the text editor height. 
> It’s fixed now.
>
> > On the matter of including the Rich text editor in core; I think it 
> should be in standard distro (as expected by newcomers!) but maybe now is a 
> good time to introduce a more advanced edition without pretty stuff.
>
> It would be quite surprising if the “advanced” edition had less stuff in 
> it than the “standard” one! But I get what you mean.
> <:-)
>
> > I think pushing the inline markup buttons with no text selected should 
> insert start/end markers (which they do) and then position the cursor in a 
> suitable position for immediately entering bold/strikethrough/... text 
> (instead of selecting the inserted markup). Same for ordered/unordered 
> lists and headings when the cursor is on an empty line.
>
> I agree, and plan to do just that.
>
> > When the cursor is at the end of a line (with no selection), block 
> markup buttons behave differently than when the cursor is anywhere else on 
> the same line. This may be confusing.
>
> > If some text in the middle of a paragraph is selected, the block markup 
> (code/quote/list/numbered list/headings) buttons fail to insert the empty 
> leading line needed for correct rendering.
>
> Thanks, I’ll look at both those..
>
> > For excising text, I believe linking would be a better default than 
> transclusion. Splitting up a tiddler that has grown too large is probably a 
> more common use case than including a snippet somewhere else; though this 
> may be my personal preference.
>
> Makes sense, I’ll change the default and let’s see how others feel.
>
> > Anyway, a big thumbs-up on this; it substantially improves the already 
> considerable discoverabilty-factor for new users. :)
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 13 Mar 2016, at 18:18, Mat <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Ya know... I'm beginning to realize that a edit mode text toolbar could 
> really be a *general *platform for manipulating edit mode content, 
> something that we have not really had thus far.
>
> For example the katex <http://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/>people 
> could have their own set of buttons. Or when we put on the locomotive hats 
> and want a railroad <http://tiddlywiki.com/#Railroad%20Diagrams>diagram. 
> For the occasional user I'd think richtext tools should be superior to 
> having to learn the notation. Actually - I strongly suspect that many who 
> would really benefit from such special notations just don't bother with it 
> because it is too cumbersome to learn the wikitext for it. I even suspect 
> this is the case with the existing bitmap editing feature - so I just added 
> an idea to the github thread 
> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2315>elaborating on 
> Jeremys note about later adding bitmap widget toolbars.
>
> But overall, it'd be great if people can easily create toolbuttons to add 
> to the new toolbar. Andrews contribution indicates that this might already 
> be the case!!
>
> <:-)
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