Hi Mat

> Hm, a conditional "wrapper" consisting of a simple list filter could display 
> the circled tick if tere is a password and a download if there isn't. But 
> this needs to test if a password field 
> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FSaving> is set or 
> not - is there any method for this? I understand password is not a regular 
> field but call to the PasswodWidget 
> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fwidgets%2Fpassword.js> but 
> maybe there's some "call" to test this anyway?

The password you are referring to here is the password used by the TiddlySpot 
saver, and you are correct that it is not directly accessible to wikitext.

But why are you so fixed on the idea of clearing the password field as the way 
of indicating which type of save you want to perform? It seems a clumsy user 
interface.

> Using separate buttons for save vs download is not good becaues it would 
> either take up sidebar real estate or have to be located every time. 

But there’s horrendous logical problems with trying to use the same button for 
two different functions which can both be simultaneously valid.

> Also, because of my extensive experimenting on tiddlyspot, I often click save 
> only to note it is downloading because I missed filling in the password. This 
> creates a lot of tiddlywiki.html files in the download folder and it would 
> just be better if I at least knew which original TW it came from.

It sounds like clearing the password field might be adding to the confusion.

Anyhow, it remains trivial for you to create a separate toolbar button that 
saves locally with the filename that you want (for browsers that support it). 
If real estate is really enough of a driver to explore the complexity above, 
why not just put the buttons in a dropdown?

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> 
> Ideas anyone?
> 
> <:-)
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