I would agree with that reasoning, generally. And yes, I'll certainly be
out of luck if I have something that looks like a {{transclude}},
<<variable>> or <$widget> in my code. For my uses I suspect all of these
would be exceedingly unlikely.
Mainly, I just find the default behavior -- *removing* formatting -- to be
very unintuitive. That loss of information is only useful in certain
situations where the user wants to *strip* formatting from a field.
Where's the example you mention?
– Evan
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi Evan
>
> Interesting idea.
>
> When wikified to text, the //comment and <template parameter list> are
> both identified as formatting and removed:
>
>
> That’s why I added the \rules except pragma to my example.
>
> I think there’s a fundamental problem with incompatibilities between the
> default wikitext syntax and the structures typically found in code.
>
> To explore this area properly, I’d be inclined to create a new parser for
> `text/code-sample` (or something) that has a very small set of parse rules
> chosen to avoid clashes.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> Inherit from this class
> template MyClass
> {
> typedef T_Traits Traits;
> }
>
>
> Wikifying to HTML instead interprets these as formatting. (We can avoid
> the extraneous <p> tags by parsing in inline mode)
>
> <em>Inherit from this class
> template<typename T_Traits="true"> <a class="tc-tiddlylink
> tc-tiddlylink-missing" href="#MyClass">MyClass</a>
> {
> typedef T_Traits Traits;
> }</typename></em>
>
>
> How do you suggest approaching problems like this without adding undue
> complexity?
>
>
> For a bit more perspective, attached is a tiddler I wrote last year to
> generate C++-like pseudocode for digital filter difference equations up to
> a certain level of complexity. (It includes an example rendering.) This
> was rather difficult to make, and it's something I'd love to be able to do
> more easily with the new wikify widget -- and ideally without having to
> worry about the gotchas mentioned above.
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 10 May 2016 13:06:44 UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Evan
>>
>> Here's a bit of code demonstrating a place where the wikify widget's
>> behavior is troublesome -- I attempt to render some SVG code, here sourced
>> from a variable, and get nothing for reasons which might not be immediately
>> clear.
>>
>>
>> The problem here is that the `output` attribute of the wikify widget
>> defaults to “text”, giving you the text content of the wikified output (in
>> this case, there is no text output, of course). The fix is to add
>> `output=“html”` to the wikify widget.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>> !!Without Backtick
>>
>> <$vars radius=40 svg="<svg width=100 height=100><circle cx=50 cy=50
>> r=<<radius>>/></svg>">
>> <$wikify name=svg_code text=<<svg>> >
>> <<svg_code>>
>> <pre><code><$text text=<<svg_code>>/></code></pre>
>> </$wikify>
>> </$vars>
>>
>> The work-around I discovered after some brief experimentation? Enclose
>> the text in `code snippet` or ```code block``` markup as below, so that all
>> content is unformatted. Unfortunately, this will prevent any enclosed
>> transclusions, widgets or macros from expanding in the $wikify widget.
>>
>> !!With Backtick (macro call is not expanded)
>>
>> <$vars radius=40 svg="`<svg width=100 height=100><circle cx=50 cy=50
>> r=<<radius>>/></svg>`">
>> <$wikify name=svg_code text=<<svg>> >
>> <<svg_code>>
>> <pre><code><$text text=<<svg_code>>/></code></pre>
>> </$wikify>
>> </$vars>
>>
>> This is far from a show-stopping problem, but it felt worth pointing
>> out. In the long run, I think that the nicest solution for wikifying with
>> text output (especially code) would be a parsing mode which handles only
>> variables, macros, widgets and transclusions. (I would also suggest that
>> this mode preserve whitespace.)
>>
>> Anyway. Keep up the great work, Jeremy, and don't burn yourself out
>> trying to hurry it out the door!
>>
>> -- Evan
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