On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 9:48:09 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote: > > I suspect the answer is negative to this but then maybe it's an idea for a > plugin for the js-wizards; >
You are probably right :) > [For possible beginners here; the reason for not wanting to overwrite > shadow tiddlers (i.e components of plugins) is that it they don't reflect > updates then.] > This is a valid concern, but the problem isn't as big, as it was when TW was in alpha or beta stage. alphas and betas changed the templates quite a lot and this caused trouble for some early adopters. Now the templates are much more stable and Jeremy only applies changes the are backwards compatible. ... But there is still a possibility, that you miss core changes, if you edit templates. ... Imo the reason, why shadow tiddlers exist and are exposed is, that they should be changed by experienced users. But at the moment the community seems to be paralysed and afraid to do so. So every change to a template is requested to be configurable. ... I think we reached a point, where we have so many configuration options, that it already hurts the project, due to its complexity. Every new parameter, that can be configured, increases this complexity and imo also makes TW slow. ... It's not one parameter that hurts, but it's all of them together. An empty TW has 1292 shadow tiddlers. I think configuration options is "fighting the symptoms" and not solving a problem. For me the problem is that users are afraid to change shadow tiddlers, which contradicts their existence. So the proposal is: ------------------------ - The TW update mechanism should detect this problem. - It should tell the user, that s/he changed aaa, bbb, ccc, templates. - It should be able to tell the differences. So the user can see and decide, if the manual changes are still valid. ... The result would be, that no user has to be afraid of changing shadow tiddlers. We already have mechanisms, that can list all shadow tiddlers, that have been changed. We just don't have a mechanism, that shows us the differences in an easy and consumable way. what do you think? have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/fc57c37b-111f-4823-bbb0-32d6e8f6f893%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
