Ciao Danielo & Mat I am really fascinated by this & will try it out in detail.
WHY? Perhaps not for reasons others might. I find it really interesting as a possible way to get away from all the browser & platform plugins. As far as i understand in Danielo has developed a way of saving tiddlers that is NEITHER directly dependent on servers NOR on browsers add ons. Is that so? If so it approaches & facilitates a uniform user experience across platforms and offline/online. At the very least its indicative a UNIVERSAL "Out-of-the-box" TW may well work & can get round browser limits. Why have loads of variant ways when ONE will do? Best wishes Josiah On Monday, 22 August 2016 17:13:15 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: > > > Hello Mat, first of all, thank you for your valuable feedback. You have a > very good eye for detail and usually spot ideas and issues that no one else > does, so thanks in advance. > > El domingo, 21 de agosto de 2016, 23:54:40 (UTC+2), Mat escribió: >> >> it is funny how other peoples projects can just be so much more difficult >> to understand. >> > Things are usually clear for the ones who envision them, but it is hard to > translate that idea. > > >> >> When using NoteSelf locally you don't have to save, because this is done >> automatically. If wanting to save in cloud, you must still click save. >> Normal local TW doesn't save automatically so one must click save both >> for local and for cloud save. >> > > Reading again your sentence to be able to answer you accordingly I just > realized about the source of your confusion (I think). The point is to not > store anything on the TW file, nothing, zero, and save everything on the > local pouch database, the sync adaptor takes care of that. If you have a > cloud configured for the currently selected database (you can have several > databases) you just have to login. Once you are logged in ,cloud sync will > happen automatically in background. A possible analogy could be a node wiki > that saves tiddlers to a dropbox folder and dropbox takes care of syncing > those files to dropbox servers and across devices. > > > >> >> This local autosave is of course good - but am I missing something? I >> mean, its not THAT difficult to click save every now and then, so is there >> more to it? >> Admittedly my Win10 crashes even more often than FF these days so >> auto-stored work would really be good on those occasions. >> >> > It is not only about autosave. It's about synchronization, having several > databases in one single TW, is about not having to download anything OR > downloading it if you want. Basically all what TW is but adding > synchronization to the mix. > > The MAIN difference between storing a wiki online in tiddlyspot and using > NoteSelf is that you don't need to be online to use NoteSelf. You can > download NoteSelf to your computer, configure a remote server and work > totally offline. When you back online, all your data is synced to the > remote database. Then, in another computer you can just use the online > version of NoteSelf, configure the same remote server and get the same data > synced to that instance. > > Currently I use NoteSelf on my work, and on my home I also use it but I > have two databases configured (in the same file) one that syncs with my > work DB and another that Syncs to my personal one, without mixing any data > or having several files. > > NoteSelf arises from my need of being able to take small notes on my > mobile or tablet and have them available on my computer and the other way > round. Using dropbox for this task is not a good option because: > > > - Syncing an entire file of 5MB each time I take a small note is > totally overkilling. Specially on my phone and my limited data plan. > - When I take a note on my tablet it can take some time until I > connect it to a wifi network. On that time I may forget that I did a > change > on my tablet, make a change on my computer and -BOM- you have a file > conflict on the best case, and loss of information in the worst. > - Keeping a wiki in sync across several devices, even using dropbox, > could be a nightmare. > > > >> When contrasting NoteSelf to Evernote I can see tremendous advantages >> with NoteSelf, but those are more from native TW than NoteSelf - or? >> >> > As it's said on the page, I took the best of TW and added sync to the mix, > so yes, most of the advantages comes from TW. But, the idea is to provide > not just a TW edition, but a small ecosystem. I have plans to build an > android application, a chrome app and maybe an ad-hoc server for making > this easier for novice users. > > Some of other advantages that are on the roadmap are: > > - Synchronization of plugins. This means that each database (you can > understand it as NoteBooks) can have it's own set of plugins that will be > synced across your devices. And switching between databases means also > loading different plugins and customizations. > - Tiddlers revisions. This is happening right now, but there is no > interface to easily switch between revisions > > > >> Now, that said, I notice the FAQ question: "How can I sync multiple >> devices?" - now *that* would be really cool, i.e if one didn't have to >> upload >> > > I just realized that I didn't included this feature in the features list, > which is a tremendous error, specially because it is the MAIN focus of the > entire thing. > > >> anything but NoteSelf was "riding on" the automatically synching that >> browsers do if one is logged into ones own browser account. That would make >> a kind of tiddly-intra-net between all ones own devices and that autosynchs >> whenever one is online. *Very *useful! >> > > That is indeed a good idea Mat, but I think that is extensions territory. > I have been investigating about it and (as usual) there are lots of > restrictions imposed by the browsers, and the APIs are only accessible to > extensions. > > Thank you very Much Mat, and hope you give NoteSelf a try, your feedback > would be very valuable. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/abdc7323-deac-480f-999f-cdf37b94f2bb%40googlegroups.com. 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