Hi Mat,

I don't think the current technique of "fetching" content from stand-alone 
Wikis will work. This is because the Wikis using PouchDb are "hollow" -- 
they have no content. The content is in a separate database, either in a 
browser (which isn't accessible to the outside world) or in a CouchDb 
database. So the only way to post content would be to export/save the 
tiddlers outside of the Couched TW and then import them into a standalone 
Twederation TW. This would be a lot of hassle.

However, looking at Cloudant's documentation, they seem to be saying that 
it's possible to give world-readable rights to the database. This leaves 
open the possibility that a different pull mechanism, that pulled directly 
from a Couch database might be possible. I think it would require writing a 
plugin that combined features from both Jed's Twederation plugin and from 
Danielo's PouchDb plugin. I suppose that there would also be a new TwCard 
type that indicated what kind of TW was being fetched from and the address 
information for the database.

Mark


On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 3:05:39 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> @Danielo (...obviously)  - I don't want to hijack your other threads so 
> posting separately;
>
>
> I'm thinking about possibilities to comment other peoples TWs, and 
> wondering if this idea based on NoteSelf would be possible;
>
> Because the data is stored in MY own local browser... what is it about the 
> TW that I surf TO that has to be set up in a special way? Is there some way 
> to have the "NoteSelf mechanism" apply only on my side, without that other 
> TW having to be set up in a special way? So that I visit a tw and add a 
> tiddler there and this is (a) stored in my local browser and (b) if I click 
> save, it is uploaded to *my* cloud couch? Maybe the "(a)" is possible but 
> not the "(b)" because the save button is what has to be special to upload 
> things?
>
> ...but then what if all TWs did have a default couch uploadmechanism, just 
> like they already do for an arbitrary tiddlyspot, But for an arbitrary 
> couch storage that I as a visitor can specify.
>
> If they did, like your NoteSelf demo, I'm thinking that the following 
> workflow for *commenting* should be possible:
>
> I visit a TW, e.g yours, and want to comment on a tiddler that I see. I 
> add a new tiddler on your tw... and (somehow) upload this to my own cloud. 
> ...Hm, is that uploading of the tiiddler or the whole tw or something else? 
> It would be ideal if it is only the tiddler and it somehow is merged into 
> some specific TW of mine in the cloud.
>
> Then IF you are "following" me, you can *fetch* tiddlers from my could 
> based TW (like is already possible in TWederation)
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> <:-)
>

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