Dave & Mark - wow! this if great, much appreciated. I'll be testing this approach in my own work in the next few days, and will reply here with comments (and, I'm sure, questions!). //steve.
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 12:40:54 PM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote: > > Thanks for the kind words and the epub, Mark! > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:32 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Amazing stuff, as always Dave! >> >> Though some may disagree with this, there are certain advantages to >> reading text like a book, especially on a small screen. Once you have a >> static HTML page, it can be converted to epub with only a few losses (SVG >> images, for one) I've attached a version of your text converted to epub, >> including a TOC. For reading, I like the FBReader myself -- it feels very >> much like reading a real book. >> >> One of the problems with TW on a small screen is that it can't form a >> pull-out drawer for table of contents and other services like regular apps. >> >> Have fun! >> Mark >> >> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 7:29:04 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I just wanted to say thank you to all who have helped me lately with >>> answers to my various questions. >>> >>> I wanted to create a system whereby I can add snippets (quotes, >>> observations) and tag them by topic, on a wide variety of topics, and >>> publish them as I update them, in a way that is easy for my target audience >>> to view on mobile quickly, navigate easily, download, print all, or print >>> select pages, and share links to individual tiddlers, without knowing a lot >>> about TiddlyWiki. I knew there had to be a TiddlyWiki way of creating an >>> expanding list of "quotes and notes by topic" that could be consulted >>> easily in all the ways just mentioned. >>> >>> I ran into a number of hurdles along the way: >>> >>> - I knew a lot of my material would be quotes added one by one to >>> topics, rather than finished articles. So I didn't want my readers to >>> have >>> to spend too much time opening various tiddlers to get to a topic before >>> realizing I only have one note or quote there so far. >>> - TiddlyWikis are not very mobile-friendly, as they are chock full >>> of shadow tiddlers, and also when holding a mobile device vertically, >>> the >>> sidebar is what becomes visible and the content gets shoved out of sight. >>> - My many, many attempts to use list filters in viewtemplate >>> tiddlers to display lists of the contents of tiddlers tagged with topic >>> x >>> led to dead ends. The complex list filters slowed TiddlyWiki way down at >>> times once I started adding a lot of material. >>> - The nature of TiddlyWiki means that people who don't know your >>> mental system might not find the best morsels of content hidden in your >>> file >>> - Customizing to print an entire file in TiddlyWiki as a syllabus >>> was a chore. >>> - Having too many files means users having to check them all to see >>> what I updated, and for me, it meants switching back and forth between >>> files when all I want to do is take notes on what I am reading. >>> - Having too few files means bigger files, and requires users having >>> to dig way into them to see if the section they are interested in was >>> updated recently. >>> - People who aren't both tech savvy and familiar with TiddlyWiki >>> will get confused by it or distracted by the nonessentials if it is not >>> simplified in some way. >>> >>> I have found my 'sweet spot' by creating special TWs that I use to >>> generate static HTML files and PDFs. The pdfs are huge, especially if >>> images are involved, and I only put them out for those readers who want a >>> more familiar, conventional type of document. The static HTMLs are what I >>> am excited about. >>> >>> >>> I thought I would share my results and process for those who might be >>> interested. >>> >>> - Here is a static HTML I have created: >>> http://recursos.giffmex.org/abc/mente.html (Spanish) >>> - Here is a link to the TW I used to create it: >>> http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/mente.html (Spanish) >>> >>> The key ingredients were: >>> >>> - Figuring out how to display certain tiddlers before others when >>> "exporting all" to the static HTML. My less than graceful but completely >>> adequate (for me) solution involved using periods at the beginning of >>> tiddler titles to force them to the top. >>> - Figuring out how to allow users to navigate between tiddlers and >>> get back to the top quickly in a static HTML. Solutions: list links by >>> tag >>> in a table of contents at the top; titles as links; a home button in >>> each >>> tiddler >>> - Figuring out how to make each page print separately in both HTML >>> and PDF. Solution: page breaks at the top of each tiddler (see >>> $:/.giffmex/pagebreak) >>> - Figuring out how to quickly open all tiddlers in order to print to >>> PDF (except a few instructions tiddlers specific to the html version). I >>> scraped together the button in $:/.giffmex/OpenAllForPrintingPDFs. >>> - Figuring out how to move quickly between files on 40 different >>> topics. Solution: Bookmark folder and subfolders in my web browser >>> (Firefox). >>> - Figuring out how to let readers know about new updates to the >>> files. I already use a Facebook group to alert people there to updates, >>> but >>> I also created an index (Spanish, and still in process) here: >>> http://recursos.giffmex.org >>> >>> So now my process is: >>> >>> - Add new content and tag it by topic >>> - If the topic is not listed in the table of contents, add it (a >>> quick copy, paste and alter) >>> - Note in a notebook which files I added new content to this week >>> - At the end of the week, >>> - Create a static HTML of each file with one click and upload them. >>> - Open all tiddlers of each file with one click, print to PDF, >>> and upload it. >>> - Change the date of the most recent update for each file in >>> Wordpress >>> - Let people know on Facebook, if the changes are significant >>> enough to merit mentioning >>> >>> I suppose my project is kind of unique, a wide ranging, expanding >>> knowledgebase to be populated primarily by short tidbits but also with some >>> tables and full articles, so I don't know just how applicable or relevant >>> most people would find this. But I hope this might be helpful reference for >>> anyone who might think about doing something similar and doesn't want to >>> have to go through everything I did. 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