Ciao Tobias On the core point Jeremy reasserted my initial view that TW is a quine. You kinda floored me. I felt well, maybe I got this all wrong? After reflection, I don't think I did. But I'd still be interested to know if you still find TW is not a quine.
On the point of "procedural" you and i live in different worlds. You are coming from computer science. I am an anthropologist. I am NOT looking at "procedure" in the same way at all. It IS my fault in not making clear in this specific group where I am coming from. I will try develop a lexicon on usage patterns so I don't create that confusion again. By "procedure" I mean "typical folk knowledge of how to do stuff". On the issue of WHY its useful to beginners to understand TW's "quineness". I think its VERY helpful to grasp that the "program" and the "content" are all part of the same thing. Best wishes Josiah On Friday, 25 November 2016 14:50:58 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Hi Tobias, Josiah, > > Joshiah prompted me to reply via Twitter > > On 15 Nov 2016, at 19:27, Tobias Beer <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > I get the feeling there's mostly a philosophical point you'e trying to > make but reading the wikipedia article on Quine I would say TiddlyWiki sure > ain't one. > > > Wikipedia defines a quine as: > > "A quine is a non-empty computer program which takes no input and produces > a copy of its own source code as its only output" > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quine_(computing) > > For me, TiddlyWiki meets that definition; of course it is much more than a > quine, but a key part of TiddlyWiki’s operation is the way that it saves > changes by downloading a fresh copy of its own HTML file. Absent any > modifications via the UI, and the saved copy is identical to the original > copy. > > But I’d be curious Tobias why you don’t think TiddlyWiki can be classified > as a quine? > > By the way, there’s a fascinating subset of quines that simultaneously > function as ASCII art. This is a particularly noted example that also > features animation: > > > http://philipsung.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/people-who-are-not-in-our-league-v.html > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/982acf89-2699-49fe-ac63-17957f32d873%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
