hi Shay,

yes, I agree with you that TW is a highly independent product which you can 
treat it as a "pet" and you self can do anything at. However TW itself 
won't let people to intervene as it does with TiddlySpace. I think it would 
depend on yourself whether you want to be intervened or just want to stay 
'undisturbed' and to think within your own world.

Just a simple thought on difference between TW and TS.

handoko -

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 2:21:47 AM UTC+7, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Hi Ed, 
>
> I read this post and some of the comments. Personally, I never considered 
> using TiddlySpace. I don't think I even looked at seriously. However, I am 
> now working on my own "public facing" TW to upload, as an HTML file, to my 
> own site. I don't think I'm the only guy who's thinking of doing that. 
>
> TW is highly an independent product, which is what I love about it. I've 
> started using it almost a year ego, and it grew to become an extension of 
> my brain, an autobiography, a project platform, a journal, a tech notebook, 
> and so much more. My TW has additions of Macros and CSS that fit my needs - 
> not a lot at all, but enough to give it somewhat of a personal look. It 
>  is, hands down, my most successful tech project this year: the knowledge 
> in my personal TW is unrivaled by nothing else I've used, besides (perhaps) 
> Evernote, which I've used for four years. And Evernote to me is completely 
> dead at this point. 
>
> TW is sort of an underdog the way I see it. The community here is very 
> dedicated, and the people very much alive. It is such a niche project with 
> so many people taking the time to really learn to use it that a hosting 
> site does not make sense, at least in my opinion: each TW out there is 
> probably highly personal, and thus, not very useful as a community tool. 
>
> I don't know that this little "I love TW" post helps you in anyway, but I 
> felt like I'd add my 0.02. I love this thing. 
>
> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 4:24:39 AM UTC-5, Ed Burgess wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> For the last 18 months I have been building a TiddlySpace (in v.1.2.26) 
>> in support of my architecture business, including pages with project data 
>> for every job and office management pages such as policies and software 
>> protocols. Most of the pages are 'private' but its a beautiful thing built 
>> quickly and easily in one of the standard templates with very simple style 
>> additions from the brilliant Tiddly Toddler and similar sites. However I 
>> have no coding experience and no understanding of the infrastructure of the 
>> web and why or how these wonderful pages are 'working'.
>>
>> I've been watching the red banner at the top of the site warning of the 
>> impending closure of the TiddlySpace server which is now a couple of weeks 
>> away and my diary tells me now is the time to act. I've been searching on 
>> google and the Tiddly forums expecting a flurry of latest advice on 
>> transposing TiddlySpaces into another platform like Wordpress, or frantic 
>> discussion on the crowd-funded attempts to save the server. But what I see 
>> is everyone behaving quite normally and going about their daily lives as if 
>> the sky is not about to fall down. (Mind you there are quite afew posts 
>> which although they apppear to be in English, I do not understand at all, 
>> so could be in there!)
>>
>> I'm thinking I've missed something?  Of course there is the potential to 
>> export out a simple HTML file from the menu items in the header.  Will my 
>> TiddlySpace continue to operate normally after the server shutdown date, as 
>> long as I have moved a copy of it to a local storage volume (I think thats 
>> what you say when you mean 'off my computer')?
>>  
>> I have seen some helpful info from @cdent on exporting as JSON files (?) 
>> which I have duely done, but I'm afraid I dont really know what to do with 
>> them next - if indeed there is a 'next'.
>>
>> If anyone can tell me why the rest of the TiddlyWorld is so calm, or 
>> point me to the escape capsule, that would be great.
>> Thanks for your help and apologies for the gaping holes in my 
>> understanding!
>> Ed
>>
>

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