Yes, that looks right. Except just note that you only need to run --init
and --load one time, not every time you run --server.

Also, instead of doing npm install, you can just download the files from
GitHub, or from the latest release (currently
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/releases/tag/v5.1.13).

Then use the command "/path/to/node /path/to/tiddlywiki.js
/path/to/datafolder [--server|--init|--load|...]".

I'm guessing node is self-contained on linux too. Don't know about mac, but
it's always nice to have certain things easily accessible. And node is used
for a lot of stuff.

Hope that helps.
-Arlen

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Evade Flow <[email protected]> wrote:

> > When I try your short-cut approach, I get warnings...
>
> Hmm. I'm still a n00b, so I'm not sure what to suggest. In case it helps,
> I can provide details on how I set up my initial 'tiddler repo'. I started
> with a monolithic HTML file that I've been using for the last week or so to
> explore TiddlyWiki's features. Then, I installed node and npm on a Linux
> machine (just 'because', I think Windows/OS X would have been fine as
> well). Then, I ran:
>
>
> $ sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki
>
> to install tiddlywiki globally. (It wound up in
> `/usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki` by default.) After that, I ran:
>
> $ tiddlywiki mywiki --init server
> Copied edition 'server' to mywiki
>
>
> Apparently, *that* step is what created tiddlywiki.info:
>
> $ ls mywiki
> tiddlywiki.info
>
>
> After that, I used my monolithic HTML to 'seed' the mywiki folder created
> in the previous step and start the server:
>
> $ tiddlywiki mywiki --load ~/Desktop/mywiki.html --server
>
>
> The above command created a tiddlers folder under mywiki containing all
> my tiddlers.
>
> $ ls mywiki/tiddlers | head -15
> Can't_embed_QWidget_in_QML_.tid
> $__config_DefaultSidebarTab.tid
> $__config_PageControlButtons_Visibility_$__core_ui_Buttons_fold-all.tid
> $__config_PageControlButtons_Visibility_$__core_ui_Buttons_save-wiki.tid
> $__config_PageControlButtons_Visibility_$__core_ui_Buttons_unfold-all.tid
> $__config_WikiParserRules_Inline_wikilink.tid
> Contents.tid
> $__core.json.tid
> deb.tid
> $__DefaultTiddlers.tid
> Getting_Tiddly.tid
> How_can_I_extract_files_from_a_DEB_package_.tid
> How_can_I_interact_with_TiddlyWiki_using_Alexa_.tid
> How_can_I_list_the_contents_of_a_DEB_file_.tid
> How_can_I_remove_a_tag_.tid
> ...
>
> After running all of the above commands, I ran git init in the mywiki
> folder and committed all the files.
>
> HTH!
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:02:27 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> When I try your short-cut approach, I get warnings about missing plugins
>> and the resulting served up TW is formatted wrongly -- as if missing a
>> stylesheet or something. There must be an additional step setting up a
>> tiddlywiki.info file. Perhaps it can just be copied from somewhere?
>>
>> Return messages:
>>
>> C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\node\mytestwiki>node.exe tiddlywiki.js .\data1 --
>> server
>> Warning: Wiki folder '.\data1' does not exist or is missing a tiddlywiki.info
>> file
>> Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
>> (press ctrl-C to exit)
>> Warning: Plugins required for client-server operation (
>> "tiddlywiki/filesystem" a
>> nd "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from tiddlywiki.info file
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 9:10:54 PM UTC-8, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Normally I store the data directory inside the tiddlywiki folder, but
>>> you can store it anywhere you want.
>>>
>>> On Jan 4, 2017 12:04 AM, "Arlen Beiler" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Welcome to the world of NodeJS. You can search for "commands" on
>>>> TiddlyWiki.com. That will give you all the command line options.
>>>>
>>>> node.exe tiddlywiki.js [data directory] [command [options]]
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2017 12:00 AM, "Arlen Beiler" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you do not specify a directory as the first argument after
>>>>> tiddlywiki.js, it will use the current directory. Most of the commands use
>>>>> that directory. So I recommend you set one.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2017 11:56 PM, "Arlen Beiler" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you specify --init or --load instead --server, then tiddlywiki.js
>>>>>> will make that the data directory. Then you specify that directory when 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> specify --server and it will serve the files from that folder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find more info on TiddlyWiki.com or by exploring the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2017 10:55 PM, "'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki" <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your example, what is "../data/wiki1" and where does it come from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 7:26:43 PM UTC-8, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anything is possible over HTTP. How are you going to save changes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From reading your email, I guess you don't know that you can just
>>>>>>>> download any tag or the master from the TiddlyWiki GitHub repository, 
>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>> node.exe into it and call "node.exe tiddlywiki.js ../data/wiki1 
>>>>>>>> --server"
>>>>>>>> and your good to go. Easy on Windows, don't know about Linux or Mac, 
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> you're a software developer :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (At first I was going to use the stock "I guess you know...") :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also several of us are working on serving multiple wikis as
>>>>>>>> separate folders instead of seperate server instances.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/Arlen22/bbd852f68e328165e49f
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2017 7:50 PM, "Evade Flow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > is there some way I can access/modify this collection of files
>>>>>>>>> using only git and a browser?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Driving home this evening, I realized this was a bit of a silly
>>>>>>>>> question for somebody who professes to be a software developer by 
>>>>>>>>> trade to
>>>>>>>>> ask—doh! (Can you tell I'm not a web developer?) Looking at the files
>>>>>>>>> processed by tiddlywiki+NodeJS, I see that *none* of them are
>>>>>>>>> HTML. It truly is "tiddlers all the way down", so... *something*
>>>>>>>>> has to convert all those .tid files to HTML so the browser can
>>>>>>>>> display them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess I should rephrase my question as: is there some way of
>>>>>>>>> serving multi-file TW content that requires less setup work than 
>>>>>>>>> NodeJS?
>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about how Python contains builtin modules that let you 
>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> something like this in a folder:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $ python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For me, this would be a big win because (as it happens) just about
>>>>>>>>> every machine I work on already has Python installed. And they
>>>>>>>>> *all* have Perl, which I believe has a similar (built-in)
>>>>>>>>> capability[?] So it would be "one less thing" to worry about it when
>>>>>>>>> configuring a new environment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 4:44:43 PM UTC-5, Evade Flow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been experimenting with TiddlyWiki and NodeJS, and
>>>>>>>>>> discovered that 'importing' my mono-html file (using tiddlywiki
>>>>>>>>>> --load) causes it to be converted into a bunch of discrete
>>>>>>>>>> files. Further experiments reveal that it is possible—seemingly, at
>>>>>>>>>> least—to sync these files (and hence, my entire wiki) to multiple 
>>>>>>>>>> machines
>>>>>>>>>> using git push/pull. The one catch is: it appears that the only
>>>>>>>>>> way to actually *use* a TiddlyWiki structured this way is to
>>>>>>>>>> serve it using NodeJS? Is that correct? Or... is there some way I can
>>>>>>>>>> access/modify this collection of files using only git and a browser?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I ask because the setup I'm fumbling my way towards seems a
>>>>>>>>>> bit... cumbersome. I'm a software developer by trade, so sync'ing 
>>>>>>>>>> git repos
>>>>>>>>>> to multiple machines comes as naturally as breathing. In contrast, 
>>>>>>>>>> doing a
>>>>>>>>>> local install of Node + npm + tiddlywiki on each machine I want to 
>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>> the data from feels like a lot of extra effort. I use Windows and 
>>>>>>>>>> Linux at
>>>>>>>>>> work, and OS X at home, and I'd rather not bother figuring out the 
>>>>>>>>>> nuances
>>>>>>>>>> of how to do that dance on all three platforms—especially given that 
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> don't have admin/root access on all the machines I'd like to access 
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> wiki(s) from.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I already have a *killer* setup for managing my myriad config
>>>>>>>>>> files (.vimrc, .zshrc, .tmux.conf, etc.) and various plugins
>>>>>>>>>> using myrepos <https://myrepos.branchable.com/> and vcsh
>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/RichiH/vcsh>. *Everything* is stored in git,
>>>>>>>>>> so I can sync my setup around to whatever machines I want. It would 
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> enormously helpful if I could do the same with my TiddlyWiki(s). Is 
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> possible?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *NOTE*: After trying it a few times, I don't have much interest
>>>>>>>>>> in trying to sync changes to monolithic TW files. The mono-HTML 
>>>>>>>>>> files are
>>>>>>>>>> huge, and the diffs contain so much 'noise' that trying to merge 
>>>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>>> from multiple machines seems like an impossibility. (Perhaps I'll 
>>>>>>>>>> find that
>>>>>>>>>> the multi-file layout has quirks/pitfalls of its own, but so far, it 
>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>> really easy to understand and reason about...)
>>>>>>>>>>
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