Dynalist seems to suffer from the online requirement that Work-Flowy does/did. WF was way too expensive for what it was IMHO.
It seemed to me that someone could come up with a kind of Work-Flowy for TW. Here's what I came up with back in December using TOC macros and a couple bits. You can just add new items with "new here". I'm sure someone who knew what they were doing could do much better. -- Mark <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yzgGBnNYHvo/WNr6WcFTbTI/AAAAAAAAABk/IMPnPFGFbyMibDtG4fa8HucngLxN1hiQACLcB/s1600/tw-flowy.png> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yzgGBnNYHvo/WNr6WcFTbTI/AAAAAAAAABk/IMPnPFGFbyMibDtG4fa8HucngLxN1hiQACLcB/s1600/tw-flowy.png> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yzgGBnNYHvo/WNr6WcFTbTI/AAAAAAAAABk/IMPnPFGFbyMibDtG4fa8HucngLxN1hiQACLcB/s1600/tw-flowy.png> On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 9:15:43 PM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote: > > Hi Conor > > Yeah, not only did I give up on this system, I also gave up on Workflowy, > because the creators were not developing it, and kept promising things > without delivering. I switched to Dynalist. See my blog post about that > switch here > http://www.giffmex.org/ideas/thanks-to-dynalist-my-searching-is-over/ > > My current system is: use Dynalist for writing and outlining, since that > is its strength, and use TW > > 1. store sensitive personal and work information kept offline, > 2. primarily to create and export static htmls on > http://articulos.giffmex.org/, and > 3. to take summary notes on books and webpages I read. (see the results at > http://giffmex.org/mn.html, but note that while I am using it, I haven't > uploaded changes to that file recently) > > Not sure with your other question if you were asking if others > collaborated with me on this project (not directly, but many people here > helped me solve problems that refined the project), or if you are asking if > this system had a collaborative component to it (it did not). > > Blessings > > Dave > > On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 11:44:48 AM UTC-6, Conor White-Sullivan wrote: >> >> Hey David, >> >> The shared workflowy is now a dead link, I'm really curious to hear more >> about this system and see if it is still working as well for you now as a >> year ago >> >> Do you collaborate with others? Using TW or Workflowy? >> >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 3:14:21 AM UTC+5:30, David Gifford wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dave >>> >>> In my edittemplate I have links to sections in my Workflowy, one for >>> each letter and number, A-Z and 0-9, and by clicking it I can open a tab to >>> the section of Workflowy corresponding to the first letter of the topic, >>> and add the topic there. Iframes would not be a good idea for this. More >>> work, and less space to work in Workflowy compared to using the entire tab >>> for it. >>> >>> Blessings >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> just wondering, do you view the workflowy instance from within TW5 >>>> using iframes, or just open a new tab to work in? >>>> >>>> On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 9:04:35 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone >>>>> >>>>> Just wanted to note that I have been integrating TiddlyWiki and >>>>> Workflowy quite well. Each one counteracts the shortcomings of the other. >>>>> I >>>>> use a central TW to create a tag based hierarchy of topic tiddlers. And >>>>> the >>>>> tiddlers contain no text, only links to the corresponding articles in >>>>> Workflowy. If a given topic would be better served by a TiddlyWiki (i.e., >>>>> embedded images, wiki links and more control over the page style and text >>>>> formatting), I create a TW and link to it from the central TW. >>>>> >>>>> Why this approach? >>>>> >>>>> 1. Workflowy is better for free writing and rearranging as I write. It >>>>> is a writing tool. It allows me to work far faster than TW ever could. By >>>>> contrast, putting asterisks for bulleted lists or @@ for indenting, etc, >>>>> takes me out of the zone when writing in TW. So I write my actual content >>>>> in Workflowy. >>>>> 2. Workflowy is also infinitely scaleable. No concern about ever >>>>> hitting a filesize ceiling. And no need to create multiple TiddlyWikis >>>>> and >>>>> have to manage them. >>>>> 3. But tagging, listing and filtering are much nicer in TiddlyWiki. >>>>> There is no tool like TiddlyWiki for showing relationships between topics >>>>> (tiddlers) like TiddlyWiki. >>>>> 4. And the search in TW is so fast and flexible compared to pretty >>>>> much anything out there. By contrast, searching in Workflowy, even when >>>>> using its tag system, turns up reams of irrelevant stuff, because topic >>>>> titles are not distinguished from content in WF as they are in TW. >>>>> >>>>> So when I have even something small worth saving, I create a topic >>>>> tiddler and tag it, and in the edit template I have a link to open up the >>>>> notes section of my Workflowy. I write the note or article or outline or >>>>> whatever it is in Workflowy, then grab the link from the browser bar >>>>> (every >>>>> single bullet in WF has its own URL), and paste it into the still open >>>>> tiddler. If the topic already has a tiddler with a link to that topic in >>>>> WF, I open that tiddler and open the WF link there and add the note >>>>> there. >>>>> Pretty quick system. >>>>> >>>>> So now I have a virtually infinite CMS using one central TW, a WF >>>>> account, and the occasional topical TW file here and there. Filesize is >>>>> irrelevant because the tiddlers in the central TW only have one link in >>>>> them, and maybe one or two tags. The system is easy for inductive dumping >>>>> and tagging when I find something worth saving in my reading and >>>>> browsing, >>>>> and is also easy for writing a longer article or project in WF and >>>>> wanting >>>>> to find it quickly using TW, and is also easy for a more deductive >>>>> process >>>>> of creating a hierarchy from above with new here buttons then adding WF >>>>> links later. >>>>> >>>>> $50/yr may seem steep for the pro account of WF, but I have found it >>>>> well worth it. Here is a shared section of my Workflowy with more >>>>> information: https://workflowy.com/s/VQgA01nJMn >>>>> >>>>> As you can tell, this system doesn't require much on the TW end to >>>>> implement. The only real addition needed is a tiddler tagged >>>>> $:/tags/EditTemplate with a link to the URL of the section in WF where >>>>> you >>>>> keep your notes. And maybe the new here button made visible in the >>>>> tiddler >>>>> toolbar. That's pretty much it. >>>>> >>>>> Hope someone here finds this helpful. For me it is the end of a long >>>>> obsessive quest that saw me produce many experiments along the way. >>>>> Finally >>>>> feel like I got there. The only things I might wish for now are a few >>>>> additions to WF like embedded images that are not a hack, and pretty >>>>> links >>>>> like [[viewed text|URL]]. But to be honest, I am content with this system >>>>> as is. >>>>> >>>>> Blessings, >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/M7BrSDiSs3Q/unsubscribe. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7f4c7ef5-7eaa-496b-970a-a14b58e3b535%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7f4c7ef5-7eaa-496b-970a-a14b58e3b535%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Gifford >>> Christian Reformed World Missions, Mexico City >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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