Hi Jeremy,

Beaker Browser is very interesting and will probably be the locus of lots 
of interesting, geeky experiments but it's not the solution we need as a 
community.

As a more practical matter, do you think it will be possible to update the 
main site before Firefox 57? I think it would be best for us (you) to have 
a clear message on the front page about the change to previous behaviour. 

There will be some users who have been party to none of our discussions who 
find themselves 'locked out' of Tiddlyfox sometime before the end of 
November. The simplest stop-gap solution is for them to switch to Firefox 
ESR (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/) which should 
last for another six months or so while the wider community figures out 
what can be done about extensions.

There is a pretty good chance that someone will try to fork Firefox and 
keep the plugin mechanism alive for a while. In the meantime, as this 
discussion shows, we have a plethora of options to develop.

Regards,
Richard

PS: "...easy enough for an old lady like myself to use. Tiddlyserver is 
happily running on my Windows computer, but I have had absolutely no luck 
on my linux laptop" - Riz. Just wanted to point out that 'non-technical old 
ladies' don't generally own Linux laptops! :-)

On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 3:20:20 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Thanks for the interesting discussion. I’d just like to throw in that 
> Beaker Browser actually makes a pretty good substitute for 
> Firefox+TiddlyFox: https://beakerbrowser.com 
>
> The confusing thing is that Beaker’s raison d’être that you’ll read about 
> on their site is all about sharing data between users via a peer-to-peer 
> protocol akin to BitTorrent. However, one doesn’t need to use any of those 
> features in order to use Beaker for working with entirely private 
> TiddlyWiki’s.
>
> You’ll need to use the latest prerelease of 5.1.15; I’ve just updated the 
> instructions:
>
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#GettingStarted%20-%20Beaker%20Browser:%5B%5BBeaker%20Browser%5D%5D%20%5B%5BGettingStarted%20-%20Beaker%20Browser%5D%5D
>  
> <http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#GettingStarted+-+Beaker+Browser:[[Beaker+Browser]]+[[GettingStarted+-+Beaker+Browser]]>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 20 Sep 2017, at 17:14, @TiddlyTweeter <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> I for one was were happy to read that you considered a solution that was 
>> easy enough for an old lady like myself to use.
>>
>
> ??? Are you April Mackenzie ??? 
>
> @TiddlyTweeter
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