Hi Tony, Technically, the tupper page, tiddlywiki.com and many TW pages I made are all the same: they are single-page web applications. As a user you can load one single HTML page and you have everything. Then you can disconnect from the internet and still use the website or navigate through the shop and everything just works until you close the browser tab.
Heeg/tupper is a really great and innovative example of the potential TW has concerning presentation. It hides it's TW nature from visitors … while a savvy TW user can hack it, go to the control panel, activate some buttons and edit content and even prices. It looks like read-only, but it isn't. It is dynamic and editable and it hides it very well ;–) Now about the browser navigation buttons. A single page web app like TW5 does not reload the page, even if the URL changes. Think of it like internal links or anchors on the same page. They take you to another section of the same page. Usually, browsers reflect this by appending the name of the anchor to the url of the page: pagename.html#anchorname. In TW you can choose if you want this or not and TW will instruct the browser accordingly. (The first setting I mentioned in my previous post.) The same is true for including this address in the browser’s history list: with TW you can choose. (The second setting.) – No matter what you choose, the browser will not leave the page and all edits are save, even if the app presents different content after every click and the #anchor segment of the URL is updated. This is also true if you go back and forth in the browser history using the browser buttons! You would be right if we were talking about static websites which TW also can produce/export but this is not the case with our examples here. No intent to set you straight – just trying to explain how single page Tiddlywikis work :–) I hope I could make my points clear even if my English is not the best. Cheers, Thomas TonyM <[email protected]> schrieb am Fr. 13. Okt. 2017 um 03:13: > Thomas, > > I stand to be corrected, but clearly in the above example are we > discussing https://Tupper.online > <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2FTupper.online&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEt3iULBQ4EkdcmwT1fsyCzeogvaA> > is a read only published website, which is substantially different to a > dynamic editable tiddlywiki. The first question did not make this > differentiation. > > The only thing I dispute, which I expected a newbie to be mistaken is the > browser back button in writable tiddlywiki. > > If auto-save is on and permalinks displayed this may be achievable but > when a single file wiki is in use back and forward force the browser to > load the whole wiki again on each action. Changes not saved will not be > found after back or forward. As nice as save on every action is when you > have large wikis or data tiddlers, turning off auto-save is needed, and you > must manually save before leaving the page. > > In the examples discussed, this is clearly tiddlywiki as a website (prior > to web 2.0) , I agree totally that it would be ideal if it behaves like any > other website and honors the forward and back buttons as navigation tools, > but surely this needs to be a static website, lest you load the whole wiki > every-time? > > If you can set me strait on the question and issues please to so. > > Tony > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/O9XhXAd0UmU/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8792c1be-5c7d-4e0c-97ba-90505cd3d2e5%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8792c1be-5c7d-4e0c-97ba-90505cd3d2e5%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CALXLrTgq2tFTQqx5_ieAGs5nw_NJchAnZznpaEQRhfeA5ddk_g%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
