Let me say this another way...

A PUT request is an undeniable request made by the client,  Honor it.  
Honor it and let the issuer own the consequences.


On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 9:35:43 AM UTC-5, coda coder wrote:
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> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:38:48 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> The backup feature could probably be better described as a complete 
>> version history. I can disable e-tags if someone is using backups and they 
>> won't lose anything. 
>>
>
> I don't know the detail, unfortunately, but if disabling e-tags is in 
> essence what I was asking you for, that's the option I (personally) would 
> prefer.
>  
>
>>
>> The other option is to add a setting that would allow you to set a time 
>> window within which an e-tag is valid. So if most of your e-tags are off by 
>> one second, you can set a window of five seconds and a request with an Etag 
>> that is within 5 seconds of the modified time will get saved.
>>
>
> There's a difference between backing up a TW when it is first opened from 
> disk and backing up on a save-by-save basis.  I'm assuming we're talking 
> about the former, not the latter.  The former is what I assume you mean by 
> "version history".
>
> I already have that in place and don't see any need to change it, though I 
> maybe would if I felt the need -- can't imagine what that need might be 
> though.
>
> As regards the time window... any code that takes a "best guess" at the 
> appropriate period of time is likely to suffer from distrust.  Also, I have 
> some wikis that are open for weeks and many others that are transient 
> throughout a single day.  Some are modified a lot, others rarely.  I just 
> don't know what time period I'd pick.  And then I'd always wonder if my 
> next save was going to suffer a 412 because I'd chosen a poor "best guess" 
> period.  Hence, distrust.
>
> Really, honestly, I'd prefer no time checking at all.  Then, as I said 
> above, TS would become usable (and, trustworthy).
>  
>
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>> On Oct 26, 2017 2:25 PM, "@TiddlyTweeter" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> The whole question of backup in TW is something that has interested me 
>> from when I started.
>>
>> I have formed an OPINION on it. 
>>
>> (1) its nice when it can be made to work seamlessly from within TW. A 
>> plus--but not a necessity. I'd rather programmers didn't struggle over it 
>> though. I'd rather they paid central attention to keeping TW up and 
>> running--something only they can do.
>>
>> (2) backup is very appropriately handled by Backup Programs. The good 
>> ones give multiple options that far exceed anything TW can do because they 
>> are dedicated to that one task.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
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