Ciao TonyM Three points ...
1 - I do NOT encourage you to open any other forum. Not because I don't think its a good idea but simply because all attempts I seen like that have largely failed so far. The fundamental fact is there are not that many people here. We are a finite number. Though, when it comes to actual writing it could have a place though, but only once its moving. My 2 cents. 2 - Regarding the more expansive descriptive documentation I was talking about I'm not sure that is TW core material. I was talking about TW tutorials. I think *they can exist on their own*. Its more about linkage (see 3). 3 - Our BIG problem on GG is FINDING stuff. Its not as if people didn't already give heart to explanation. They do. And it gets lost. Daily. I think that is part of the issue. A big part of it. Best wishes Josiah On Saturday, 9 December 2017 02:28:23 UTC+1, TonyM wrote: > > Diego/Ed/Josiah , > > I think this thread is the only place to subscribe at this point. In my > view we need to hear from a few others who have or can help integrate such > documents with the tiddlywiki effort as a whole, it is best not to step on > each others toes, however such waiting is often the death of such projects, > so we must proceed regardless. As Ed points out Eric should really provide > some guidance if possible, after all it is often he who produces answers of > the quality we need, not to mention other individuals in the forum. Jeremy > as well should chime in. > > I also think key to this is using the proper method to contribute to the > documentation, I have not worked out how to do this yet or we could use a > separate shared user environment like a mediawiki with references to > tiddlywiki.com. where we can build a single point of truth and all > contributors can edit. The pain with MediaWiki is its a second markup, but > it also has talk, and revisions etc... > > We just need to pick an appropriate way towards our goal even if we shift > latter and get started now. > > Josiah, I think what you ask for will come after the fundamentals I raise > are dealt with, or at least once started. For example if someone is > providing instructions on how to "How to write, index and print a > cookbook" if they can say we use the list widget of the form documented > here, and customised as below we then blah blah, the effort of writing such > solutions should be much easier and the solution knowledge base grows on > top of a knowledge base of the elements. The elements can be improved and > expanded without revision in all the different solutions like Grannies > photo album. > > *If there is no movement on this and no clear objections* I can open a > Yammer network for conversations and place a Dedicated MediaWiki online to > start moving forward. I have no interest in supplanting existing forums > etc.... only promoting a focused project to ease our own and others path to > tiddlywiki adoption and excellence. In fact as we build more supporting > doco we can post it here for review. > > Regards > Tony > > > On Saturday, 9 December 2017 09:22:18 UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote: >> >> Hey Tony, >> >> Is there somewhere I can "subscribe" or follow your efforts on this >> front? I am 100% behind this! >> >> Diego >> >> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 4:40:51 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> I plan to start contributing to the TiddlyWiki documentation. I want to >>> spell out what I am keen to add, so wanted to open it for discussion before >>> hand. >>> >>> Please keep this discussion focused on what I propose if possible. >>> >>> As my Newbie status fades I am still finding the documentation falls >>> short of my needs, I would like to add to the documentation with everyone's >>> help the following; >>> >>> >>> - Examples (need not include "Try It") >>> - *Provide full examples with the full statement eg using list or >>> list-links to demonstrate a filter* >>> - So it can be copy and pasted into someones wiki >>> - *Provide examples with placeholders for the major forms of a >>> command* >>> - The alternatives where a command has distinct applications >>> - Allowing copy, paste and edit. >>> - *Provide examples where values are pulled from the current tiddler* >>> - Too many examples only have static tiddler names or literal >>> strings >>> - When building reusable macros and solutions we need examples of >>> how to extract values from the current tiddlers title, fields and >>> tags. >>> >>> >>> I believe such examples will support newbie and expert alike and act as >>> a more practical reference. Of importance it will help people get over the >>> syntax and references humps TW5 presents, and make it easier to learn by >>> example. >>> >>> If people smarter than me can bring together all the ways and standards >>> for references and transclusion into a single reference tiddler as well >>> would be helpful as currently the different forms are all over the place. >>> >>> Are there any other critical pieces of info needed? >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d86a98aa-0381-4435-aa15-6c6070520e77%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
