Interesting discussion on the "definitive" TiddlyWiki. There has been much talk here lately about documentation, community, etc, and this thread becomes a part of it.
In my view, the community of tiddlywiki users is, and always will be, self-organizing. Though we all use different aspects of the community, I would currently identify the following as elements of it (I'd be interested in the aspects that I've missed): * *github*: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 -- - repo for tiddlywiki5. I'm not an active github user, and don't participate in this community at all. But there is activity: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pulse/monthly suggests in the past month, 21 merged pull requests, 7 new issues. Perhaps someone here could elaborate on the ways in which the community participates through github, especially for those of us who are not active github users. * tiddlywiki *google group* (this group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/TiddlyWiki -- a long-lived group (first message available <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/gaFdSTuQj0I> that I could find is from 2005!), with ~6500 members. In February, there were 922 posts in 107 topics; January 1,329 (155) and December 1,275 (143). In March to date, there are 229 posts; about 3/4 of them have been written by the 10 most active posters. (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/tiddlywiki) * tiddlywiki dev google group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikidev. 1677 members, 165 posts, 25 topics in February. Most active posters for March have some overlap with end-user group. I don't read or write to this group; perhaps someone could elaborate on what happens here? * tiddlywiki docs google group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikidocs. 92 members, relatively inactive most of the time. * reddit: r/TiddlyWiki (75 subscribers) and r/TiddlyWiki5 (272 subscribers). (most posts by one user, the moderator https://www.reddit.com/user/surelynotmymainacc/ * twitter: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23tiddlywiki&src=typd I'm very interested in continuing to develop tutorials and guides and help systems and better documentation etc.. In the spirit of tiddlywiki, and in the spirit of open source software, we should just do it. There is no real need to change tiddlywiki.com -- but if there were a group or an individual user who wanted to modify / add on to the contents of TiddlyWiki.com, it would be sort-of-easy. Perhaps one could use github, and allow folks to submit "pull requests" (might not be the right term) that consisted of additional tiddlers built within tiddlywiki.com. We could run a quasi-independent repository (plus.tiddlywiki.com?) that included the current version of tiddlywiki.com plus any additions "we" made. Any one of us could do something like that, and it might yield interesting results. As to Mark's question, is this kind of effort ethical or legal: I believe it it fully in the terms of the license and spirit of open source software generally and tiddlywiki specifically. Here is the quote from https://tiddlywiki.com/#License: "you can take TiddlyWiki (meaning, I believe: tiddlywiki.com) and do anything you want with it without any license fee payment or other legal obligation to the creators of TiddlyWiki or anyone else" I hope this was helpful to our ongoing discussion in this thread. //steve. On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 11:38:52 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: > Setting up an independent Wiki about TiddlyWiki that could be updated in > real-time would be an advantageous thing. > > What I've wondered, and asked before, is whether it is legal/acceptable to > import the content of TiddlyWiki.com into such a wiki. If not, it would > take years to generate comparable material. > > -- Mark > > On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 4:45:38 AM UTC-8, Joe Armstrong wrote: >> >> A couple of questions: >> >> 1) Is there a "definitive" TW (definitive in the sense that it serves as >> some kind of master >> reference copy for documentation of how TW works -- I'm assuming this is >> at >> https://tiddlywiki.com/ >> >> 2) Every wikipedia has a Talk page - for discussions about a page. >> This seems like a good idea - currently the only way to comment on a page >> is to make a better version and send a push request to github -- this >> seems >> a bit awkward >> >> Case in point :the SetWidget has an example saying >> >> >> <$set name="myVariable" value="Some text"> >> <$text text=<<myVariable>>/> >> </$set> >> >> >> But the text says name is a variable - but the <<myVariable>> is a macro >> expansion. >> So here set has defined a macro. The Variable tiddler talks about >> 'special types of variable' >> >> It might be difficult to explain this in the SetWidget tiddler itself so >> one could have a convention >> that (say) SetWidget-talk always had discussions about SetWidget >> (somewhat like the Wkikpedia) >> >> Cheers >> >> /Joe >> >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b1dab3f8-1483-4336-99ca-1c1d1b1fd148%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
