On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 6:49:55 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
> T J,
>
> In your question you use an alternative jargon to describe tiddlywiki,
>
With the so-called "jargon", I was merely hoping to double check some of my
understanding of TW by confirming perceived analogs between its vernacular
and terms I happen to be familiar with and find more meaningful or *less*
jargon-y.
then say "I've found that one dictionary can be set as the value of a
> key/attribute/field on another dictionary." Could you please spell this out
> a but more,
>
Sure. Take, for example, JS:
const wiki = {} // associative array as DB
—given this structure is a collection of organized data—
and DBMS
—given mechanisms are offered for managing and
retrieving its data
wiki['Tiddler A Title'] = {text:'blah', ...other standard fields...,
customField1:'meh'} // associative array as record, a tiddler
wiki['Tiddler B Title'] = {text:'stuff', ...} // another tiddler
wiki['Tiddler C Title'] = {
...standard fields...,
customFieldMyRefList: [
wiki['Tiddler A Title'],
wiki['Tiddler B Title']
] // an array of refs to records as the value of a custom field on a record
}
> and as mark suggests explain your objectives better.
>
The abstract nature of my inquiry accurately reflects the abstract nature
of my objective: to understand the structures and mechanisms of TW
generally/abstractly, to learn what types of things are (im)possible with
it —not to, at this point, realize any particular use or application of it.
> As a platform I do not believe there is any database model that can not be
> represented in tiddlywiki, although some such as one that
> demands"referential integrity" as Mark mentions would be a little
> convoluted.
>
So, if the value of a tiddler's title field changes, all ref mechanisms
break?
> Could you explain this further?,
>
I'll revisit if I devise a more concrete use case that I need help with.
but first let me try and answer the question.
>
Thanks.
> Any Field can be use to store lists of tiddlers, just as the tags field
> already is doing, and there is a convention that uses the list field of a
> given tiddler to list the tiddlers tagged with that tiddler, allowing
> drag-able reordering, and the listops operators etc.. are there to
> manipulate such lists.
>
> "Set[ing] one tiddler or a Title List
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Title%20List> of tiddlers as the value of a
> custom field on another tiddler." Is possible using the above mechanism,
> and set-field messages, list ops widget and more.
>
Some of the mentioned mechanisms (messages, listops, widgets, *et cetera*)
have helped me find the relevant docs entries that I'd previously been
unable to find. Thanks.
However I believe if we could see your objectives we may even be able to
> give more detailed or alternative options.
>
> Regrads
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 6:38:54 AM UTC+10, TJ Walker wrote:
>>
>> TiddlerFields are name:value pairs that make up a tiddler
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields>
>>>
>>
>> So, tiddlers're more or less dictionaries/associative arrays/maps as db
>> records, right? Within many contexts that offer such constructs, I've found
>> that one dictionary can be set as the value of a key/attribute/field on
>> another dictionary. I was hoping to be able to do this in TiddlyWiki;
>> though, in poring over the docs, I wasn't able to determine how to set one
>> tiddler or a Title List <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Title%20List> of
>> tiddlers as the value of a custom field on another tiddler. Is this
>> possible?
>>
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