My thought was that the parties would each have their own Bob. Then all the security is handled by DropBox, which has experience.
Security is a big deal these days. Consider EquiFax, whose entire business is supposed to be that of information security, and yet they exposed 150 million people's private information. A gentleman's (or gentlewoman's) agreement re naming conventions could allow people to share, without a 100% multi-user system. Still, if it was something you planned to do a lot of, it might be better to just use wikimedia technology. -- Mark On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 9:37:20 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote: > > Mark, > > Perhaps Jed can answer that. It could be great, > > I think at the moment Bob (the single Host) is dealing with the possible > contention between multiple users on a per tiddler basis. There may need to > be an extension to allow two hosts to share the one file area, but its a > bloody good question. However on the current model if you can get a node > server accessible on the Internet both can happily visit the one tiddlywiki > and both work on it, with only changing tiddlers where contention is > managed. > > I recently hosted NodeJS on the internet, and plan to make this bob > however I am cautious because it can be a very high security risk. But > Jeremy is working on a Login security component. > > With Vanilla Node or even TiddlyServer it can auto-save every change > quite quickly, I think it would be quite easy to, check it is available for > checkout, save a tiddler indicating I have the wiki checked out for > editing, so others can view but not save, until I check it back in, then > they can check it out. > I believe this is possible with the current technology. Bob can help in > this scenario to avoid the need to save and reload the wiki. > > Another method that may work in some use cases is to force people to > "login" to the wiki, basically providing their user name, them allow them > to create and edit tiddlers created by them but not others (unless they > check it out as above). Ie check it out to edit system tiddlers, or others > tiddlers, otherwise use it "not checked out" knowing users will not step on > each others toes. > > Just some recent thoughts of mine > > Tony > > > > Basically this would allow multiple user edits over time if not at the > same time, or what I would call "serial editing". In many business cases > this is often more than enough. > > Regards > Tony > > On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 2:12:26 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote: >> >> I wonder if two users, each with their own Bob implementation, could >> share the same DropBox folder, essentially creating a nearly-multi-user >> system (taking into account various lag times). ?? >> >> -- Mark >> >> On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 6:13:55 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote: >>> >>> Zenai, >>> >>> There are many ways to do what you ask and there is no clear winner in >>> my mind, The best for you will depend a little on the work requirements and >>> the facilities available to you. There is work in progress right now that >>> will increase the possibilities. >>> >>> Sharing on a local network only is quite simple using node, TiddlyServer >>> Bob even I believe TiddlyDesktop. >>> TiddlySpot.com is possibly the best immediate general solution. >>> >>> There are ways to share a tiddlywiki as a file online from share storage >>> such as dropbox, one Drive Google Drive and more however these tend to be >>> file based wikis so multiple serial editors is ok but there is a danger one >>> user would save over the other. >>> >>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted will help you get started and so >>> can the newly created setup http://setup.tiddlyspot.com/ >>> >>> Since TiddlyWiki single file is html it can be posted anywhere on the >>> internet for read only access >>> Noteself allows each user to have their own instance with a browser but >>> it does not help with collaboration unless you connect it to an online >>> CouchDB database or people export their tiddlers and send them to you. >>> The bees knees I can see is hosting the Multi-user Node version called >>> bob online, but an additional layer of security is required and not all >>> people have this hosting ability. >>> >>> Depending on your needs, you could have the editors access your wiki in >>> you local network and upload a copy to a html server in releases, for read >>> only users. >>> >>> Many of us know the possibilities, and some have implemented them, >>> Jeremy is even working on Deploying on Amazon Web Services, I do th >>> >>> On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 6:13:15 AM UTC+10, Zenai10 wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> So i'm sure this has been asked many times but I cannot find what I >>>> need. I'm trying to set up a wiki server so several users can connect and >>>> edit a wiki online as we are across the country. >>>> I have only been able to create local network server wiki's using >>>> node.js. Is it possible to host online to allow multiple editors, or t the >>>> very least a viewable link for anyone else to see. >>>> >>>> Thanks very much >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c14a32d1-3954-4999-947f-05e89a8c8dd6%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
