Hi Tony

Your description specifies a single tiddler, but why would you restrict this 
capability to a single tiddler? Wouldn't be more useful if these chromeless 
permaviews worked with multiple tiddlers, just as permaviews do today?

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> On 28 Aug 2018, at 00:21, TonyM <anthony.mus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> This thread is a new and separate one as a result of another inadvertently 
> dividing into two threads. If the same changes are needed to help both 
> threads I will leave to those with core coding skills.
> 
> Display a Single tiddler from another TiddlyWIki
> I was interested in the ability to use a link to a tiddler in a wiki (from 
> another tiddlywiki or website) that opened a tiddler, somewhat like a 
> permalink would do, except to open the selected tiddler and nothing but that 
> tiddler, no side bar, toolbar (optionally) nothing. An example use case is a 
> link or iframe to https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators as a reference.
> 
> Whilst what am asking could also be described as Implementing a true single 
> tiddler display mode it is in fact different to improving the single tiddler 
> 
> I understand this would load the whole wiki to display a single tiddler, I am 
> fine with that because I may want to build sophisticated tiddlers but it 
> would be helpful if we could give a single tiddler total focus and no 
> apparent chrome around it.
> 
> One of my motivations is when I have content I want to share with the world 
> and its in my Wiki, in a tiddler, I want to publish it to the world without 
> needing tiddlywikis interface to be there by default. I also want to do this 
> for myself such as open in new window single tiddler views. The interaction 
> with the underlying wiki can be dealt with buy the tiddlers author.
> 
> Comments relating to this in the other thread;
> That actually sounds like the easiest thing to do out of everything discussed 
> here. All you need to do is hide the sidebar and make the background the same 
> color as the tiddler. Then insert a widget in the tiddler that prevents 
> navigation and put the tiddler content inside that. Or just don't have any 
> navigation in the tiddler. 
> 
> I agree that this would be desirable. I guess it would be similar to tiddlers 
> exported in html format. TiddlySpace had something like this (TiddlySpace is 
> not to be confused with TiddlySpot). Shouldn't this be relatively simple to 
> do with the node version of TW? 
> 
> BTW, for this type of single and totally independent tiddlers I think we 
> should try to implement optional "static solutions" for as many of the 
> widgets/macros as we can. CSS is getting increasingly more powerful and a lot 
> of things that were only possible with js can now be done on CSS, which works 
> in static presentations. 
> 
> Lets not throw the baby into hot-water urging "static" on this. I think 
> TonyM's point was that we can increase flexible intelligence in delivery via 
> single Tiddler (no cruft) Mode. I think performance is likely to be good.
> 
> Well, the "performance" is to a great extent a result of the wiki, not the 
> tiddler and if I understand Tony then he wants tiddlers that really are as 
> independent as possible, not just styled to hide the rest of the TW. I also 
> find this concept very appealing... even if I must admit I'm not quite sure 
> what I'd do with them 
> 
> So I would add
> On ones own wikis
> One could build a FAQ wiki with Q&A and reference details, and make an index 
> to them in a tiddler, and open the content in that tiddler. Then present only 
> a single page based on a tiddler to the world in an iframe that functionally 
> has a single page yet has all tiddlywikis smarts underneath.
> You could build a set of tools in a wiki (single tiddler) and independently 
> publish/address each of them
> On other wikis 
> you could reference content in them such as 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Filter%20Operators without any chrome, 
> sidebars menus etc... 
> let the designer decide if you can link to other tiddlers from the published 
> tiddler/wiki or remain "shandboxed" in that wiki
> Regards
> Tony
> 
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