Hi Mat, I've actually been discussing with Josiah about Bob and Twederation. I am glad there are others who think this is worth the time and effort. And of course, everything should be for the betterment of the community.
Our primary concerns seem to have converged very closely so I'd be more than delighted to see what you've created and offer suggestions and PRs if I am able. My only problem is the fact that Bob et al implementations depend on Nodejs. I'd prefer to keep things in a standalone file and I have reason to suspect a lot of ordinary users that I am targeting evidently find the single file form of tiddlywiki easier to understand and use. Here's how I view the problem: my model is actually more concerned with streamlining the distribution network for personal projects and plugins, rating them and easily adding them into your wikis hosted in your account and vice versa. My model is more centralised (guilty as charged) and is more akin to a "product hunt" clone crossed with an App store (with the profile page being the store front for some user). Your implementation is more like a separate app that deserves it's own space to grow, partly because it's decentralised nature might make it incompatible with Maarfapad. However, all this won't matter much if there isn't enough interest to justify this project. I am running lean here so I want to minimise waste and not commit too much resources to building something that nobody would want. Thanks for your interest. Looking forward to seeing the TW federation live! On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 10:58:32 PM UTC+3, Mat wrote: > > Abraham... you're in deed on to something *huge*, and those applications > are a big part of what so far has been referred to as TWederation (or > perhaps TiddlyWiki federation)! This is what I've been nagging about for a > few years now. > > *...and, in fact, you're about 3-4 days away from seeing it implemented!* > > ...because I am, currently building *almost exactly* what you're talking > about, even down to the terminology, on top of Jeds underlying mechanisms > (Bob and TWederBob); a subscriptions system and a gallery display. And once > we have more than one server there will be twCards, i.e a kind of identity > card which we (mostly Jed) developed alreadyy several months ago for the > first rendition of TWederation (a project that didn't scale well). Jed even > made a wizard to create such twCards. > > Now, you may be more interested in doing this for Maarfpad. No problem - > this is all front end stuff so it can be transferred. In fact, you're more > than welcome to pick up the very things I've created and tweak it for your > own purposes. But, better yet, I would love to cooperate and develop this > along with others. Jed is mostly focussed on the backend stuff and my focus > is on UI. One major ambition is to eventually be able to use this very > "platform" itself for the development of TW and TW-applications. > > But, may I ask that you do something: To not miss out on good ideas, may I > ask that you think about the things you would want to do and how to do them > as much as you can before I show what I've done? That way you can more > easily point out flaws in my implementation, i.e without having first been > influenced by my design choices. > > Jed and I are doing this for the benefit of the community because we've > "seen the light", i.e that TWederation will radically change the whole TW > project. But it is clear that friendly user interfaces are critical so this > project needs all the brain power it can get. I believe the things I'm > working on (fully dependent on Jeds TWederBob plugin and overall great > support) will be a "wedge" to get people to start to use this. Time will > tell... > > <:-) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/39b99dae-1806-49ca-9888-5e37d3b06c7a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
