Hi Tony!
 My experience is TW in real work and projects cluttered easily, so we need 
a simple way to be able to organize and control objects in that!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Mohammad

On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 2:15:20 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohamad et a
>
> To add to this conversation what we are talking about is the visibility of 
> fields when in the edit template, there are the already hidden ones in the 
> edit fields list such as "created", change count and others. I have taken a 
> different approach in my key tiddlywiki. I leave the edit facility alone 
> but rarely enter edit mode at all. I have created the ability to edit 
> fields in view mode (using some gymnastics to edit the current tiddler and 
> a toggle to show / hide), and provide my own code to edit each field, so I 
> can honour the nature of different fields, like dates have time stamps and 
> date pickers, the icon field has the image selector, and some fields allow 
> you select from predetermined values and some from existing values in other 
> tiddlers matching fields.  Using this method I can list in an 
> edit-fields-list (field) the fields to display and their order, provide 
> drop down lists to add fields and much more. This facility extends to tags, 
> alternative tag fields and the text field.
>
> Whilst this is working in a robust way for me it is premature for me to 
> put forward proposed changes to the development team, but I expect I will 
> eventually. You may have seen some posts from me about fields as first 
> class citizens. I believe we need to provide the core the following 
> features.
>
>    - An easy way to edit fields in the current tiddler
>    - The ability to define fields, their usage and ways they can source 
>    information
>    - An easy way to arrange what and how fields can be displayed in 
>    tiddlers view mode or an additional mode called update.
>
> I have also an example where I have manipulated the way the edit fields 
> list that appears in edit mode works such that it includes links to the 
> fields definition.
>
> I have also taken this further to allow the field definitions to include 
> how a field may appear for view or edit in list columns. Basically if you 
> list some tiddlers you can provide a tiddlername that tags all the columns 
> you want in that list, the columns then define its title, and how to 
> display and/or edit that fields value in the list. I believe these should 
> all be rolled into the field definition.
>
> The reason it is not ready for inclusion in the core or key plugins is the 
> solution would best set a standard such that in future others can share 
> field definitions, column definitions etc... and the core can just enable 
> this and set the standards with out providing all the details.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 8:45:56 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> You could, if feeling adventurous, hack
>>
>> $:/core/macros/tag-picker
>> Go down to the line:
>>
>> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]search:title{$:/temp/NewTagName}sort[]]" 
>> variable="tag">
>>
>> and change to:
>>
>> <$list 
>> filter="[tags[]!is[system]!prefix{$:/config/Tags/hide/myprefix}search:title{$:/temp/NewTagName}sort[]]"
>>  
>> variable="tag">
>>
>> and then make a tiddler:
>>
>> $:/config/Tags/hide/myprefix
>>
>> and put whatever prefix you wish to prevent showing (in the editor)
>>
>> This way if you have a series of structural tiddlers (one's that you use 
>> to create a TOC tree, for instance) then you could put
>>
>> toc_
>>
>> So that you would see tags that had actual meaning (contacts, personal, 
>> locations, etc.).
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 1:56:51 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Mark,
>>>  Should we do this for every field and tag we don't want?
>>>
>>> -Mohammad
>>>
>>

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