Hi Tony

Nice thoughts, or seeds of thoughts...

I confess I didn't take to TWOutlier when it first came out. It was at the 
same time as a conversation on TW as an outliner, so I was judging it on 
those merits, and not seeing other possibilities for it. It took until I 
had been working in StackEdit and really liking the TOC on the side there, 
and frustrated by StackEdit's limitations in other areas. 

Because of StackEdit, I also got more used to the idea of editing while 
seeing one thing, and creating an end result that looked quite different, 
and better, than the editor does. So when I looked at TWOutlier again, it 
had the potential of the TOC I liked from StackEdit, plus it occurred to 
me, as I doubt it would have before, to do the editing in TWOutlier, and 
have the web viewer be in a regular vertical TOC tiddler.

On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 4:47:23 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> David,
>
> This kind of alternate view of Tiddlywiki could I believe be called a 
> viewer. Like Jeremys recent thread on  Innerwikis I would like to see a bit 
> of a standard or supporting plugin or macro set, on top of which we build 
> more "viewers" like your own. These would them be readily shareable so the 
> work is done once and then becomes available to every wiki.
>
> TWOutlier was my first inspiration on this. I have spent some time playing 
> with and learning the techniques. One good idea would be to introduce 
> alternate view and edit templates, both inner and outer ones for such 
> viewers. For example TWOutliers "add child" would be in the outer edit 
> template for each tiddler, but inside the viewer. Such view edit templates 
> would have their own toolbars, tags etc... They should also have their own 
> story and history.
>
> Any way just some food for thought since your mind has being on this 
> subject recently.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 9:14:26 AM UTC+11, Dave Gifford - 
> http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>>
>> ok Last post on this for today.
>>
>> I used the template to start a topic, to work out the kinks in the 
>> template. Below is the link. I only have content in the Bienvenido and 
>> bibliographies. But the toc is more complete.
>>
>> http://articulos.giffmex.org/1LDP/apologetica.set.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 2:16:36 PM UTC-6, Dave Gifford - 
>> http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>>>
>>> By the way
>>>
>>> I just discovered a big boo boo in the tiddler 
>>>
>>> $:/.giffmex/Editing HQ
>>>
>>> It was doing a macro call from a since-deleted tiddler from when I was 
>>> experimenting. So the tabs were not shoing.
>>>
>>> I have corrected and uploaded it to the same link (
>>> http://articulos.giffmex.org/1LDP/2019.agmorg.template.html)
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 12:34:18 PM UTC-6, HansWobbe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dave:
>>>>
>>>> This demo was sufficiently interesting for me to spend a bit of time 
>>>> looking at HowToDoIt.  I failed to find out how.  
>>>> I know you are busy, but if you have any hints that are somple to 
>>>> share, I'd appreciate them.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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