Hello JD,

WOW. WE FOUND IT!!

Yes! I knew that I did save and I was not imagining anything.

THANK YOU. I have attached a screenshot from chrome's download's page. 
 

[image: TW Saving Failed.PNG]


You know what, this only proves an old adage from my native language. It 
means something like, if you have a problem, go to your rooftop and shout 
it out, somebody would have an answer to your problem. And this is what 
happened here.I reached out and found a solution. Ancients were right. 
Thank you JD.



On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 4:41:10 AM UTC-7, JD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I love that we are now on different realities because of this problem, 
> which has also happened to me... But maybe your problem might really have 
> been alien in nature?
>
> I also use the download saver method, overwriting the same file and then 
> once in a while saving to a backup location. All of this on Google Drive, 
> too, like you. 
>
> And you know what, sometimes Google Drive does this thing where it looks 
> like it has saved the file... until you look closely at the bottom bar of 
> the browser where it says "Failed - Insufficient permissions". Trouble with 
> this is you have to delete the file, wait for the deletion to sync and then 
> re-save. Mendokusai! Most worrying is, it looks exactly as if the file 
> actually saved.
>
> [image: Untitled.png]
>  
> Maybe this is what happened? Well anyway, my condolences to your lost data.
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 12:24:37 PM UTC+9, passingby wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your input. 
>> The TW was a fresh one which I downloaded today in the morning. The 
>> clocks were already 'spring ahead' on my laptop on sunday (should have, 
>> because I have on internet). So I dunno. 
>>
>> Maybe I am just dreaming things. I suspected that maybe instead of 'Save' 
>> I have been hitting 'Cancel' all the time. But its really hard to accept 
>> that. Or maybe I did not save at all and I am not sleeping well. 
>>
>> Sometimes I deeply suspect the nature of reality. I suspect that there is 
>> no objective reality and that world does not exist outside of our mind. But 
>> if the world of our mind does exist, then in that mind I DID save the file, 
>> so it should be there now. I don't know.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 8:12:48 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Wait, 5pm *PST*? That's not right. But it got me thinking.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the problem is an imperfect storm of  GD and DST. Are you 
>>> continuously connected to the net? Did your laptop automatically  update 
>>> the time over the weekend? Did you use the laptop over the weekend? I'm 
>>> thinking that  when you first started writing to the disk it did so with a 
>>> timestamp that was an hour behind. GD then thought the file in the cloud 
>>> was newer. So GD wrote over your file. Unless you double-checked the 
>>> timestamp yourself and/or reloaded the TW file, you wouldn't know that it 
>>> had happened. 
>>>
>>> That's my theory any way. Some variety of that.
>>>
>>> Well, hopefully it won't happen again for another 10 years.  Or at least 
>>> until Oct. 26.
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 7:23:07 PM UTC-7, passingby wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is a first time for everything. I lost data worth a few hours 
>>>> today. Its not the end of the world but I am at my wits end as to how it 
>>>> happened. I am sharing this to find out if you have any strange 
>>>> explanations or if it has happened to you like this ever.
>>>> Here are the facts of the case:
>>>>
>>>> 1. I am on windows 10, chrome browser which I just checked, is 
>>>> up-to-date.
>>>> 2. I was using the default saver, and I was over writing my file on the 
>>>> disk. 
>>>> 3. The file was physically located in Google drive folder, which is in 
>>>> sync all the time
>>>> 4. I had been making notes since morning and periodically I pressed the 
>>>> save button and overwrote the local file. 
>>>> 5. I remember the dialog box warning for overwriting coming up, and I 
>>>> saying yes to it. I remember the sound of the warning too. (this makes me 
>>>> feel sure that I did save my file a couple of times at least)
>>>> 6.  At around 5pm PST, I closed the browser and shut down my laptop 
>>>> because my brain was fatigued and I thought I should move around a bit
>>>> 7. I came back to the room after about half an hour and started my 
>>>> laptop.
>>>> 8. When I opened my TW it had only one tiddler in it and that was the 
>>>> very first one from early afternoon. No other tiddlers were there.
>>>> 9. I checked the local file time stamp and it had 12.30pm !
>>>> 10. I was dumbfounded! I went to my google drive on web and check the 
>>>> file version. There were none after 12.30pm!
>>>> 11. I searched my chrome history to see if I accidentally was working 
>>>> on any other TW simultaneously with a similar name. Nope, nothing.
>>>> 12. I searched my windows machine to see if I could find any local file 
>>>> I worked on. None.
>>>>
>>>> So what happened? The only explanation is that I did not save at all. 
>>>> This I am not ready to accept. I definitely saved a couple of times. But 
>>>> timestamp on my file as well as google driver version time says last 
>>>> modification was 12.30 pm. This is very strange. 
>>>> At one time during my workflow I pulled out the TW tab from my chrome 
>>>> and made it into separate window. And about an hour later I merged all the 
>>>> tabs back. I do not know, but I am suspecting maybe that splitting and 
>>>> merging did something. 
>>>>
>>>> Well, the data was lost. That's okay. 
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that I did press the save button and followed the process, is 
>>>> it in any way possible that Chrome did not overwrite the local file? 
>>>>
>>>

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