Hi Mohammad, Is it possible to have a change-log tiddler to populate the changes > including issues fixed and new features. >
The next release will have a change-log in the demo! Great idea! Hi @TiddlyTweeter, Mentats in Frank Herbert's book "Dune" are humans whose job it is to mimic > computers after computers were banned > Yes! I've been rereading Dune with my wife and it has been on my mind. I think the ubiquity of computers has made humans think more like computers. But then there's TiddlyWiki and other software that tries to make computers that can structure information more like a human. I find this tension pretty interesting. We are remaking each other in the other's image. Mentat is supposed to be an extension of TiddlyWiki's philosophy of radical configurability into UI. Hi Jan, it took me some time to understand the logic of Mentat > Yes. I'm finding this to be a recurring problem. The docs and demos need a lot of work. I haven't been able to communicate the ideas effectively, I think. the relative logic of the $/windows works great but the Mentat space seems > to be limited to vh, it would be practical if it was unlimited at least to > the bottom > Part of the idea of the volant/mentat group of plugins is that every aspect of the ui becomes encapsulated in configurable containers. If you think of the classic storyview, you get a scrolling container (the viewport) that holds the storyriver and a separate scrolling container that holds the sidebar (which does not scroll as you scroll the storyriver in the viewport). Mentat tries to make that explicit and configurable. So you now have a sidebar tiddler, which you can position wherever you like. But you also have the story river container in the form of a story window tiddler. If you want, you can position a window tiddler to fill the whole screen (or the whole screen apart from the sidebar tiddler). It will scroll and behave just like the classic story river. All that said, Engine and Mentat have been elaborations on the fixed volant functionality (think the $:/Volant tag). Absolute volant functionality has not be explored yet (think $:/VolantAbsolute). It is certainly possible that later plugins will change everything. it is a Luxury that a $:/window can contain multiple Tiddlers. I think it > would be easier to understand if each Tiddler would open in a new $:/Window. > I want window tiddlers to be position-able story rivers. So it makes sense to me that navigating to a tiddler will open it an existing story river. That said, hold shift when you click a link and it will open it in a new story window. This does not work for creating new tiddlers however. That doesn't use the same navigation mechanism. Sorry. it would be great if a new Tiddler could be added to a $:/Window and > reordered by drag and drop. > You're in luck! Drag and drop the window tabs at the top of each window to reorder the story river in that window. Also drag the tab to the window tab bar in another window to open it there too. Unfortunately, as yet, the tab that you drag to a another window will remain open in the original window as well. This pull request #3710 <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3710/> on github would make it possible for the tab to be automatically removed when dragged away. But we aren't there yet. -it would be nice if the Names of the contained Tiddler were visible in the > windowbar and if you could configure the standart name from $:/Window to a > subject to be able to store multiple Mentat-Pinnboards (like > subjectxy/TiddlerName) generated by the prefix. > I'm not entirely sure what this means. The window name issue is a real one. The windowbar is supposed to mimic the task bar on a desktop. Icons are used rather than names, on a desktop. I don't have a good solution for this yet. I'm unsure about using a contained tiddler title. Since story windows are story rivers, which tiddler do you use as the name? And I don't entirely understand that next part about pinboards. Have you checked out the Layout and Session functionality in the Mentat tab? That may or may not have something to do with what you're referring to. Why do the $:/window-Tiddlers have this sort of historylist. They seem to > work without even if you delete it. It makes them a little unpleasant in > the normal storyriver. Could this simply be omitted? > They have a history list for the same reason the classic story river does. Inside each window tiddler, the default storyviews hold sway. If they make use of a history list ($:/HistoryList) I wanted to make sure one was available for each window, which is, itself, a self-contained story river. Full refreshes should clear that though. As for opening window tiddlers in the normal storyriver: I don't entirely understand what that's for. Could you give me a bit more information about what you're doing? I don't really understand the use case; so I don't know how to design for that. PS: Deciphering Names...Mentat is clear now ... is Volant inspired by > Mikhail *Bulgakov's The Master and Margerita?* > It's from Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun. I've heard The Maste and Margerita is an interesting one, but I've never read it, unfortunately. Best wishes, admls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5e407ba8-df0b-479a-a8fd-24a8681ea34a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
