Eric,

Thanks for that explanation! I had not absorbed that concept properly.

A small test shows that when using *sort[toc-order]* or *nsort[toc-order]* 
- the empty/non-existent toc-order values *go to the top of the list*, 
followed by those that have a value of 0, then the other numbers below.

So depending on what one wants, doing a *!nsort[toc-order]* might 
accomplish what is needed.

Otherwise, perhaps use the Tiddler Commander Plugin 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/YQU3ATb5r3k> to 
add the field and the wanted values to all the tiddlers without that field 
quickly.

Regards

On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 8:44:45 PM UTC+7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 4:04:57 AM UTC-7, S. S. wrote:
>>
>> I haven't understood what you mean by "sort[toc-order]"
>>
>
> The second parameter of the toc-selective-expandable macro uses filter 
> syntax to apply a sort order to the set of tiddler being displayed at each 
> level of the tree.
>
> "sort[toc-order]" means "sort the list of tiddlers by the value in the 
> "toc-order" field of each tiddler.
>
> Thus, if each tiddler has a "toc-order" field containing a number then 
> when those tiddlers are shown in the tree, they will be sorted based on 
> those numbers.
>
> The problem is that tiddlers where the "toc-order" field is missing (or 
> blank or non-numeric) are sorted AFTER the tiddlers that do have a defined 
> value for "toc-order", and Jamie was asking how to get these un-numbered 
> tiddlers to default to being placed BEFORE the sorted ones.
>
> Note: for his purposes, Jamie should be using "nsort[toc-order]", which 
> does a NUMERIC sort, rather than an ALPHABETIC sort.  With alpha sorting, a 
> sequence of numbers like "1 2 3 10 11 21 22" will be sorted as "1 10 11 2 
> 21 22 3".
>
> However, just like the sort[...] filter, nsort[...] also puts 
> missing/blank/non-numeric values at the end of the list.  So, although 
> nsort[...] is correct, it still doesn't solve the original problem.
>
> -e
>
>

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