Ciao Mark 

I believe you get it. That struggle "in the beginning"; the march to scale 
that lost "the other thing" (that bit is understandable).

Then the "gamed" quantative (a box of sins?) that cuts legs off and makes 
an innacurate world of misrepresentation (motivated dysfunction we should 
fight).

TT

On Thursday, 1 August 2019 16:50:34 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but in the beginning Yahoo's search 
> engine was based on actual humans organizing things by semantic terms. 
> As the number of websites grew into a riotous horde, this approach became 
> impracticable. Eventually the big G won out with robots searching
> for new sites and algorithms to look for "relevant" search terms.
>
> The problem is that the quantitative can be gamed. So you do a search and 
> you get several thousand very similar websites, all of which have lifted
> their information from some original website that you can't find because 
> the thousand sites have applied SEO techniques to boost their quantitative
> assessment and the original site did not. If you visit those sites, you 
> will get a chiding note admonishing you how the web will collapse if you 
> keep 
> using an ad-blocker. They don't mention that it's their manipulations that 
> make it impossible for you to find the actual source site that may deserve 
> your support.
>
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 4:36:08 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> I'm old and worn out.
>>
>> In the early days of the emergence of the net there was a whole 
>> sub-culture exploring "qualitative" data. What happened was that Google and 
>> other "Net Machines" took that work and implemented it as "quantative". 
>>
>> Google makes no differentiation now. Your qualitative it makes 
>> quantative, whatever it is. That is part of its brilliance. And its horror.
>>
>> The residual issue is that the "open edge" gets closed. But that is 
>> exactly what should not have happened.
>>
>> Few people now understand the impetus towards "text-bases" (TW can be 
>> thought of as a "text-base") which recorded "EXPERIENCE", rather than 
>> "data-bases", which recorded the STATS of DOINGS.
>>
>> IMO, this issue is still alive, but muted in the avalanch of SERVER 
>> SAYINGS which are actually very partial. But DRIVING too much. Smothering 
>> the still live issue.
>>
>> No technology is innocent now.
>>
>> Josiah
>> In deep(ish) thought 
>>
>

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