Hi Tony

1. Regarding my lack of comments

For the record, it is 'nothing personal' on my end, either. I am not a 
coder but a user who has contributed with a few adaptations, and the 
toolmap. My process is I check once a day to see if there are new goodies I 
should add to the toolmap, and anything to read that interests me 
personally. It is not my goal to make comments since normally I wouldn't 
have much to say.

2. Regarding the lack of people on the group

I, too, have noticed that the group has shrunk to a handful of the same 
people commenting. That doesn't make me concerned for the group but for 
TiddlyWiki. Are people moving on from TiddlyWiki? Or are they using it and 
are so satisfied with where they are on it that they don't feel the need to 
come here? While on the one hand, the ideal is that more and more people 
would be able to use TiddlyWiki without depending on the group for help, on 
the other hand the constant development of new plugins and features should 
keep people coming back.

In my case, the relink plugin has reinvigorated my use of TiddlyWiki 
because now I can edit titles to mark reading progress, etc, and know that 
the links are being updated. I used to use tagging and listwidget filters 
for that. I am hoping that the relink plugin won't slow my files down as 
the extensive tagging and listwidgets did. And the ability to use ## for 
internal anchors for exported HTMLs has reinvigorated my publishing of 
Spanish resources. Anyway, not trying to derail the thread with these 
off-topic comments, I am just explaining that these new developments are 
getting me to use, and want to use, TiddlyWiki even more than before, and 
they keep me checking the group. But then I have been around here long 
enough that I can usually see the personal implications of new developments 
I find here, and not everybody is able to do that. Even for me, much of 
TiddlyWiki is like the menus on Microsoft Word that I never open and 
wouldn't know what to do with.

Regarding the numbers of people, the issues are 

a) the lack of easy onboarding (specifically the hassles of having to 
understand saving mechanisms just to use it), 
b) its high learning curve for all the really cool stuff
c) its limited ability to handle images and file attachments compared to 
other notetaking tools
d) the lack of documentation written for non-coders. 

Years ago for TiddlyWiki classic, I did a tutorial called 'TiddlyWiki for 
the Rest of us' (http://www.giffmex.org/twfortherestofus.html), and the 
reaction was huge. But I don't have the time or expertise to do something 
like that for TiddlyWiki now. If Jeremy were to pay professional 
consultants to come in to write documentation and make TiddlyWiki easier to 
jump into, and market it online (TiddlyWiki is now rarely mentioned in the 
web lists of notetaking apps), I think it would take off again. But even 
then, I think the market would be limited to patient people who are okay 
with tweaking as opposed to having something more out of the box. But the 
rise of Notion shows there are people out there willing to spend time on 
adapting tools for their needs. 

There is nothing as good as TiddlyWiki at what it does. It keeps getting 
better for me. But there are too many options that do some of what 
TiddlyWiki does at a level that is 'good enough' for most people, and those 
options also do many things that TiddlyWiki cannot. The trick is attracting 
and hooking the people for whom TiddlyWiki is a great fit.

Blessings,

On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 4:52:43 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Actualy I feel the lack of response to a request for comment is a 
> combination of how the questions are asked (I will keep working on that) 
> and what people personally think they contribute (always more than they 
> realise) and only ultimately the platform in the end. I could look at 
> building an alternate nethod, I did not get any buy-in on yammer, I could 
> try disqus but anything that is another step away from gg our key 
> communication tool it is another step removed.
>
> However I also know not all people are conceptual thinkers like me, with 
> some notable exceptions here of course. I am asking a very conceptual 
> question here, so I expect a lower response rate, even although perhaps 
> more people could comment.
>
> Things could be better, but its hard to start a revolution unless there is 
> a lot of dissatisfaction.
>
> Regards
> Tony 
>
>

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