Thanks Arlen! TiddlyTables is a great contribution!

One question: Is it possible to simply add classes or override the default 
classes for Tables?

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:22:35 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> All,
> Thank you for your feedback. I couldn't agree more that the documentation 
> for TiddlyTables needs improvement. I will try my best to do so in future 
> releases. I have tried to integrate some of the documentation into the Edit 
> menu. Advanced Styles, Advanced Features, More Columns and Getting Started 
> all contain helpful information, but more is on the way. In the meantime, I 
> started writing down a few paragraphs to cover a couple of the more 
> advanced topics. I highly recommend reading through it and walking through 
> the example I give. It can be found here: 
> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Digging%20deeper%20into%20TiddlyTables
>
> Another resource is the task manager example plugin (shown in the sidebar) 
> which illustrates most of TiddlyTable's use cases. It consists of three 
> separate tables, one nested inside the other:
>
> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/realm-table
> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/project-table
> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/task-table
>
> To enable the Edit menu for these tables, change the value of the field 
> "tbl-show-edit" to "true" for each. This will enable the "Edit" button, 
> making it easier to see how these tables were built and how they work 
> together.
>
> Let me know if this information was helpful and/or if there are any other 
> topics I should focus on in lieu of formal documentation. 
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Tony, 
>> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
>> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
>> points:
>>
>>
>>    - A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<<table>>]]` I did not 
>>    expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>
>> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
>> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
>> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
>> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
>> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
>> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
>> <<table>> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
>> or not.
>>
>>    - I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>>    a specific table?
>>    
>> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
>> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>>
>>
>>        I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar 
>> but you need to set the tiddler
>>        eg
>>        <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
>>        <<table>>
>>        </$tiddler>
>>
>> Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its parameters 
>> from the fields that are created when the table is created. Essentially, a 
>> table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We can call them 
>> "table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new tiddler is 
>> created and it contains the default table. If you edit this tiddler you 
>> will see its text is just <<table>> and it has 29 fields that serve as its 
>> parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler widget like you 
>> show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables to store these 29 
>> parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render in TiddlerA. The 
>> same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in the case of using 
>> "$:/tags/SideBar" 
>> the table MUST be transcluded or it will not find the parameters its 
>> looking for. This is a limitation of the "non-standard" implementation of 
>> macros I am using, and I mention it in Known Issues/Limitations. My next 
>> post will have a link in it that describes this further.
>>
>> These are great questions, keep them coming!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:44:19 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> For fun whilst learning more on TiddlyTables
>>>
>>>
>>>    - SImply put it is a new way of looking at any filter
>>>    - A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<<table>>]]` I did not 
>>>    expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>>    - Are tables totally self contained? Looks like it, The advantage is 
>>>    TiddlyTables plus a bunch of tables to access various system information 
>>>    would be very helpful
>>>    - I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column 
>>>    for a specific table?
>>>
>>> I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar but 
>>> you need to set the tiddler
>>> eg
>>> <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
>>> <<table>>
>>> </$tiddler>
>>>
>>> I will keep exploring this.
>>>
>>> I would like to see a one button create table from filter.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:53:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alan,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I am just exploring the possibilities of tiddlytables. Since 
>>>> the minimum one needs is a filter it is a great way to simply list 
>>>> tiddlers 
>>>> of any type. But then a custom table with custom fields can expose other 
>>>> details.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also appreciate the drop down on the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) - 
>>>> filter syntax
>>>> Quite a few people have being asking for help for writing filters and 
>>>> you have already done it.
>>>>
>>>> It would be great in an editor toolbar button as well.
>>>>
>>>> A simple example is
>>>> [all[shadows]prefix[$:/info]!prefix[$:/info/browser]] [[$:/info/browser
>>>> /name]]
>>>>
>>>> and show the text field.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:58:04 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have uploaded a new version of TiddlyTables that includes a 
>>>>> confirmation when deleting. Thank you for your excellent comments and 
>>>>> feedback. 
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 6:17:44 PM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Alan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see that your plugin uses the ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the docs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are several differences compared to the WidgetMessage: 
>>>>>>> tm-delete-tiddler 
>>>>>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-delete-tiddler>:
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>    - *The user is not prompted to confirm the deletion*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - No automatic updating of the story list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - No special handling of draft tiddlers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think switching deletion to the tm-delete-tiddler message would 
>>>>>> handle the confirmation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Diego
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 11:02:47 AM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree the delete column should have a confirmation. I will try to 
>>>>>>> get that in the next version. Do you know of a simple and standard way 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> accomplish this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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