In my view, either the TiddlyWeb filters are exactly the same as the
TiddlyWiki ones, or they are not. So the options 1,2, and 4 are just
variations are a theme. "3 or not 3?", that is the question.

I also think that something similar to TiddlyWiki syntax, but not
exactly the same is worse than something completely different. So I
think I'd go for a different syntax, and having made that decision,
I'd just adopt a Boolean syntax as Eric suggests.

Martin


2009/4/29 Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]>:
>
> For those that are interested, the motivation for the design of the
> TiddlyWiki filter syntax was to make it compatible with the existing
> syntax for the DefaultTiddlers tiddler. Previously, DefaultTiddlers
> had been defined as a whitespace-delimited list of tiddler titles to
> be opened at startup, with the wiki-ish convention that tiddler titles
> containing spaces would be quoted with square brackets. Hence, you get
> DefaultTiddlers that look like this:
>
> ----
> MyFirstTiddler
> [[Another Tiddler]]
> ----
>
> The use-case I wanted to support was things like being able to specify
> in DefaultTiddlers things like "show me the last 10 tiddlers to have
> been modified", which frequently cropped up from users interested in
> using TiddlyWiki in a blog-like way. Given such an extended syntax, I
> could see other places (like the <<list>> macro) where filters might
> also be handy.
>
> The easiest way to do this without introducing a breaking change to
> the way that DefaultTiddlers was parsed, hence the design that is now
> documented on tiddlywiki.org:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.org/index.php?title=Dev:FilterTiddlers
>
> Returning to Chris' original question, being an eternal optimist, I
> still believe that (3) is feasible, but if we can't manage that in
> time for 1.0, I'd have thought that (2) would be the sensible option.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jerm
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:29 AM, FND <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> My conclusion from this is that some kind of change needs to happen.
>>> My inclination is to experiment with something new
>>
>> I think some unencumbered exploration in this area would be a good thing.
>> As we've seen, trying to mimic TiddlyWiki's behavior doesn't get us very
>> far - especially given that the current implementation seems incomplete.
>> So if you were to come up with an "optimal" solution without having to
>> worry about compatibility, we could compare the two approaches, perhaps
>> even revisiting the TiddlyWiki core's implementation.
>>
>>
>> -- F.
>>
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> mailto:[email protected]
> http://www.tiddlywiki.com
>
> >
>

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