My Moneys worth, I would support the idea of using an open database as per Mans and the original idea suggested by Pascal.
Of course the best idea would be a layered approach where you can swap the underlying storage system (use as the data store) and import export and dynamically load from it. Lots of existing server side work has been done. This suggestion is just another back-end case. One advantage is the tools and integration, alternate databases would bring to Tiddly wiki. Imagin if Open office base + MS Access and even MS SQL and Oracle could host the back-end. As long as the ability to generate a portable tiddlywki is retained there is great strength in this. TiddlyWiki could become the "data access" portal of choice. We must always remember how quickly things advance. at the moment 10's of megabytes seems big for our tiddlywiki's browser and 32GB USB drives - what about 5 years ? Perhaps tiddlywiki5 is the the best place for these ideas. TonyM If you have not found an easy way to do it with TiddlyWiki, you have missed something. www.tiddlywiki.com On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:51, lapin <[email protected]> wrote: > The SQLite suggestion seems like a good idea. Thanks Mark. > Pascal > > On 8 mai, 08:07, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote: > > I believe if you do a google search, someone out there has worked out > > a javascript/ODBC workaround. That would probably be a first step in > > making an Access/TW interface. Or connecting to the open office > > database, for that matter. > > > > What "Access" would do for you is to enhance scalability. Depending on > > your your machine's capabilities, you will sooner or later hit size > > limitations. When we're talking about portability, OS isn't always the > > issue. A large TW might work fine on a desktop machine, but choke on a > > netbook. > > > > A more universal solution might be a plugin based on sqlite. FF > > already uses sqlite, so it must be possible, at least in theory to > > access sqlite from javascript. I suppose the first step would be to > > find out if someone has already made a FF plugin that would allow > > sqlite to be accessed from within javascript. > > > > Mark > > > > On May 7, 5:00 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Pascal> One of the ideas behind Tiddlywiki is to be portable > and all > > > > inclusive, free of any link to a server. It is a matter of opinion > but > > > > Access pretty much is the same (at least to me) to anyone who doesn't > > > > (care to) know how to code in PHP/MySQL. Combining the two seems > > > > interesting to me if only for the mere pleasure of adding a > > > > supplementary feature to Tiddlywiki. > > > > > To me portability is a variety of things - OS'independance - Windows, > > > Mac and Linux agnosticism, Open Source - freedom to "port" install > > > anywhere you like, Online, offline, on a friends maschine, on a > > > separate disc - on your own server, etc etc... > > > ools > > > Microsoft doesn't deliver any of these "portabilities" - however Open > > > Office does. > > > I would be very happy to see some kind of plugin which delivers closer > > > interoperation, either as backend ie WriterTools for Open Office, > > > TiddlyWikiPlugin for OpenOffice or even a frontend for Open Office > > > Database (Base).... > > > Open Office exists as a portable package, which you can download from > > > portableapps.com (if you'd like to investigate without installing in > > > Windows). > > > > > Please don't get me wrong - I work with proprietary software every day > > > (profesionally)- however TiddlyWiki is a an opensource project which > > > give you freedom to be creative even down to its sourcecode, why > > > invest good work and time on delivering a frontend for proprietary > > > software, which won't give you anything back?? - I don't get it?... > > > > > I hope my lack of enthusiasm for a MS-plugin-project hasn't made you > > > give up making a good wikiexperience for your collegues, I just wanted > > > to point out that I think that TidddlyWiki, and the TiddlyWiki > > > community should strive for communication with other open source > > > projects and open standards... MS people get paid for keeping the good > > > ideas to themselves, We "payback" to eachother with good ideas ... > > > Working with a local database as a backend IS a good idea - helping MS > > > to earn more money is not! Open Office is Open Source... Get my point? > > > > > Best wishes > > > Måns Mårtensson > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<tiddlywikidev%[email protected]> > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWikiDev" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<tiddlywikidev%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWikiDev" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<tiddlywikidev%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. 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