We're certainly interested in hearing suggestions for improvements to tiddlywiki.com, including suggestions for changes to the "Hello There" tiddler. Do you have any suggestions as to what should be said instead of "install"? The point about "even when offline" is taken - clearly this was meant that it could be used even when offline, but it is ambiguous the way it is written.
I'll certainly add David Gifford's website to the Examples tiddler. Martin On 17 July 2011 01:11, Ton van Rooijen <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear TW developers community, > > If you are on the brink of releasing a next release of TW, this must > be the righ time to give some feedback on the main TW-download > website, i.c. www.tiddlywiki.com. > > Not too long ago this website has been "restyled" and for big parts > rewritten. > I myself am not too happy, but who am I, with some changed accents or > rewordings, because I am afraid it puts people on the wrong foot. It > might occur that instead of becoming enthousiastic, which should be > the primary focus, potential new users get "scared" and turn their > back on TW, even before having tried. > > My main concerns are in tiddler "Hello There", because that is the > very first introduction for newbee's. > One of the most important and charming features of TW is its self- > contained one file structure. As a natural consequence there was never > talk of "installation" in the past, because there isn't. Nevertheless > the current "Hello There" unfortunately talks about "install it (TW) > on your computer"! There's even a separate chapter on it and > "Installation Guidelines". Scary! Whilst in fact there is only > download and open the file. > Btw. "download .. and install ... 'EVEN WHEN OFFLINE'" is of course > unprecedented magic, because impossible. > > Many people, including myself, do use TW as their engine for > publishing a website. Would I have read your current "Hello There" > back in 2006 when I started with my first website, I would not even > have tried TW. Because the current text reads "If you're looking for > group collaboration features, OR WANT YOUR TIDDLYWIKI TO BE AVAILABLE > ON ANY COMPUTER, there are several HOSTEDOPTIONS for you to chose > from." This statement is seriously incorrect, because it is only true > for collaboration. To make your TW available on any computer, i.e. > like a R/O website, the only thing you have to do of course is to > publish that one self-contained TW-file of yours somewhere on the Web. > Again, unneccesary scaring off new potential users. More then a pity! > > May I suggest that in the "Examples"-tiddler a reference will be made > to David Gifford's "TiddlyWiki in Action"-website, being a TW-website > itself, but at the same time showcasing many examples of TWs as > websites. > > It's not my intention to offend whoever, only try to contribute to a > better promotion of TW, which I like very, very much. So I am curious > to hear your comments on this, or discuss the topics even futher. > Thanks and best regards, > Ton van Rooijen > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWikiDev" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
