On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, PMario wrote:

Question first:
Is it planned, to have a ServerSetting that lets me (per space) "opt
out" of the public live stream?

At any other service I use, I highly appreciate "opt in" as a default
setting. Since I did/can set my default bag to "_private" I'd accept
the "opt out" option with TiddlySpace.

The opt out option _is_ to choose writing in private as your
default.

The websocket functionality doesn't provide any new vectors for
people discovering content, just more of the same.

It was already the case that somebody could do any of the following
to be aware of all the content on the server:

* have a constantly reloading atom feed of:

    http://tiddlyspace.com/search.atom?q=

* use a script which got that same url as fat json:

    http://tiddlyspace.com/search.json?q=;fat=1

So as you can see, websockets aren't more dangerous. Anyone who
has concerns about the visibility of their content should be aware
that their content, while it is public, can be harvested by
_anyone_.

Your thought experiment is interesting, but the ability for a
machine to harvest public content that is then almost immediately
made private is not appreciably greater with websockets than the
other ways.

TiddlySpace is biased towards people being able to browse anyone's
content, unless it is explicitly marked otherwise.

I know, that nobody would accidentally save "privat" data in the
"public" space and than change it back to "private". But what scares
me, is that machines probably will be faster reading my stuff, than me
making it "private" again.

This is potentially true, but it is not something that is unique to
TiddlySpace: it is the nature of content on the internet: Once you
produce it as a URL the chances of something out there harvesting it
and keeping it _forever_ are very high, even if you delete it within
the next few seconds.

Until people understand that fact, they'll keep coming up with
stupid crap like SOPA.

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Chris Dent                                   http://burningchrome.com/
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