I agree. Has anyone thought about integrating notepad++ because it is such a wickedly powerfully editor and the pluging funtions are endless! On Apr 23, 2012 1:03 AM, "Mat" <[email protected]> wrote:
> WYSIWYG vs not: > > Why not both(!). > > Why could todays "view" not be WYSIWYG for regular text and if you > wanted to code etc go into "edit" like today. (Actually, adopting > something like Tobias' linkifyplugin approach would even enable the > key concept of linking in WYSIWYG automatically! [1],[2]) While > everyone no doubt appreciated the coding aspects, actual applications > like "homepages" probably have more pure text than is reflected in the > google discussion groups (ie. where code is discussed). > > I'd think WYSIWYG is particularly welcome (and expected) by people > coming in contact with TW for the first time. > > <:-) > > > [1] http://linkify.tiddlyspot.com/index.html > [2] > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/80569db4f950a96f > > > On Apr 21, 3:13 pm, Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I almost abandoned hope that TW5 development will continue, so I'm > glad that > > > project is alive. > > > > Yes, it's been a long journey to get here, with a few distractions > > along the way. > > > > > But some points are unclear to me. > > > 1. WYSIWYG - will it be main (or at least fully featured) editing > mode? Any > > > support for easy refactoring (I like how it works in Smallest Federated > > > Wiki)? > > > > WYSIWYG in the traditional sense isn't much of a focus for me at the > > moment. I think the success of MarkDown has shown that people are > > starting to see that WYSIWYG is not the panacea it first seems: it may > > be trivial to apply WYSIWYG to things like bold and italics, but > > there's no easy way to handle things like macro calls with WYSIWYG. I > > think of WYSIWYG as being pretty much a failure: look at Microsoft > > Word, where the price of WYSIWYG is that your formatting commands are > > attached to special invisible characters at the end of paragraphs. You > > get unexpected behaviour when those invisible markers are pasted or > > deleted. > > > > Having said that, I have taken care to ensure that a WYSIWYG edit mode > > could be added to TW5. The technical hassles are enough that I'm not > > keen to do it myself. You'll appreciate that rich text editors on the > > web work with HTML, not wikitext, and so one has to worry about round > > trip conversion from wikitext to HTML and back again, which is > > awkward. > > > > I am very interested in being able to edit transcluded tiddlers > > directly, though. The goal of TiddlyWiki is about improving the > > reusability of content by breaking it up into small chunks, and using > > transclusion and aggregation to thread those chunks together into a > > narrative. I believe that direct editing will make it much easier to > > work in that way. > > > > I'm also tracking SFW with great interest. If you're referring to the > > drag and drop refactoring, then, yes, that is very much on my roadmap. > > > > There is a strong correspondence between SFW and TW5. What SFW calls > > paragraphs correspond to tiddlers in TW5, and what SFW calls a page > > corresponds to a story in TW5. It's not a primary focus, but I'd hope > > to be able to use TW5 as a client for SFW. > > > > > 2. What about editing history? How is it supposed to be stored? > > > > Servers like TiddlyWeb provide revision support that TiddlyWiki5 will > > be able to hook into. > > > > I am also interested in implementing revision support within the > > client, so that revisions are available when working as a single HTML > > file. I'm hoping to use a diff-patch-merge function so that only the > > differential changes between versions will need to be stored. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Jeremy > > > > -- > > Jeremy Ruston > > mailto:[email protected]://www.tiddlywiki.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWikiDev" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
