On Sun, 17 Jun 2012, PMario wrote:

If I enter a space, it seems the SystemSettings tiddler is created by
the system in the _private bag. If I allready have a _public
SystemSettings tiddler it messes up this space.

SystemSettings has been saved to *_private for at least two years now:

https://github.com/TiddlySpace/tiddlyspace/commit/16138472146b0742cb28003df603ca8bdbcd8395

I'm not sure of the details but I think the expectation is that
SystemSettings for a space will be created immediately after space
creation

It also heavily conflicts with the space include mechanism. Several of
my plugin spaces are broken. A public SystemSettings tiddler is a
shadow tiddler if it is included with a space. .... the core mustn't
change it.

I suspect the problems you are seeing are entirely in the domain of
TiddlySpace plugins, and not the core. If we can determine that's the
case then we should move this conversation over to [tiddlyspace]
instead of here.

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by "conflicts with the
space include mechanism". It's not clear what behavior you are trying
to achieve nor what is going wrong. If you are trying to use
SystemSettings in space A to influence in space B, that's probably not
the way to do it.

It's pretty clear there is a bit of logic problem in the code somewhere
but I've never been too clear on how/when SystemSettings was supposed to be
created (in or out of TiddlySpace) to know what's right.

I do know that on occassion when I visit a space of which I'm not a
member it will try to save a SystemSettings tiddler and fail, which
shouldn't be happening. But the pattern is not regular.

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