It's a crying shame and, for me at least, really spoils the whole point of TiddlyWiki. It no longer works out of the box and I can't use them on whatever computer I want without installing something extra first.
Has anyone reached out to the Mozilla devs to get a way to have this restriction lifted a little? Do they know they have unintentionally ruined a really useful "app"? While I understand the security concerns, there must be a way to allow TiddlyWikis to work out of the box. Perhaps the browser could allow a file to write to itself instead of the whole filesystem. Perhaps WHATWG or the HTML5 working groups? Can anyone with knowledge of the mozilla/standards process submit a patch that would remedy this and be accepted? TiddlyWiki of old was ahead of its times and it's really frustrating that browser improvements are actually putting one of the most innovative uses of JavaScript back 10 years! -- Ash In Frustration. On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:49:49 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > It is definitely frustrating to have to start using an extension. On the > upside, it does enable some other useful stuff (like the possibility of > TiddlySnip-like functionality). > > The extension is so small that I plan to distribute it embedded within TW5 > itself. So, if you've got a TW file but don't have TiddlyFox installed, > you'll be able to right click and save a special like within TiddlyWiki in > order to extract and save the extension. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > [email protected] <javascript:> > > > On 28 Aug 2012, at 07:44, julien23 <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > finally disables the trick that TiddlyWiki uses for >> > saving changes to itself >> > TW used to be very easy to use from whatever browser or computer : self > contained, no extension needed ... > It all started to mess from FF4 and its to security restrictions... > I hope TW5 will give us back our beloved self contained, no extension > needed TW ... > > with functionality something like TiddlySnip >> > rebirth of TiddlySnip is indeed welcome ! > > Thanks all developpers > > Julien > > Le lundi 27 août 2012 23:18:30 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit : >> >> Firefox 15, which is currently in beta but scheduled to be released on >> August 28th, finally disables the trick that TiddlyWiki uses for >> saving changes to itself (see [1]). From a general security >> perspective, this is probably a good thing - especially if you've >> watched a less computer-literate friend or relative deal with random >> yes/no dialogue boxes; that familiar confirmation dialogue isn't much >> protection. >> >> So, I've started work on a little Firefox extension called "TiddlyFox" >> that can save files on behalf of TiddlyWiki. >> >> TiddlyFox stays in the background until you load a TiddlyWiki 2.x.x >> document from a file: URL. It then patches the TiddlyWiki document on >> the fly to have it invoke the extension to save files on it's behalf. >> >> I've tested the extension on Firefox 14 (the current version) and the >> beta of Firefox 15. >> >> To install the extension, navigate to [2] in Firefox. You should be >> prompted to install the plugin. Then, if you navigate to a TiddlyWiki >> document on a file: URI you should get an alert notifying you that >> TiddlyFox has patched the document. Save changes should then work in >> the normal way. >> >> Right now, the extension is very basic, without a full user interface. >> The plan is to add a proper confirmation dialogue, and to extend it >> with functionality something like TiddlySnip for clipping bits of web >> pages into a TiddlyWiki document. It will also work with TiddlyWiki5 >> (it doesn't yet). >> >> I'd be very grateful for any testing, and ping me here with any >> feedback or questions. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jeremy. >> >> [1] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/101 >> [2] >> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/raw/master/tiddlyfox/extension/tiddlyfox.xpi >> >> >> -- >> Jeremy Ruston >> mailto:[email protected] >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/-/iwaDsgoH43QJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
