Hi Ken

Don't worry, we're not going to remove the togglelinks feature from TW
Classic. For a long time we've been very careful about breaking backwards
compatibility, and wouldn't do so lightly.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thx Tobias for asking! … thx to User who requested this feature, and Thx
> Jeremy
>
> I DO/HAVE use/d this feature Monthly for 5 Years! to aid debugging quirky
> TW's I peruse. Actually _not_ _just_ TW related but I use a b r o a d (type
> and version) range of browsers and OS'.
>
> There's been numerous instances (Use Case/s) where _Close_ or
> _CloseOthers_ (in Toolbar::Commands) will _not_ function!?
> So resort to _CloseAll_ button, or browser refresh ugh! …have to
> re-navigate to relevant tiddlers, this is where _chkToggleLinks_ comes to
> the rescue!
> …OR the worst Use Case is opening each tiddler in Browser Tab!?!!
>
> I sympathize with your Dev perspective…of grief/hassle, maybe there are
> alternate implementations of the _chkToggleLinks_ Feature Set.
>
> IF/when _chkToggleLinks_ is removed, Please, PLEASE document that FACT at
> least in the Revision Tracking Comments w/in GitHub; at best documented
> with TWc
>
> Has there been further Discussions on the _chkToggleLinks_ theme via other
> communication media since Mar 2013?
>
> Has there been further Actions on the _chkToggleLinks_ theme within TWc
> (v2.7.x, 2.8.x) &/or TW5 since Mar 2013?
>
> Thanks for your efforts People, Ken
>
> ---- some details of my platforms…
> TW from V2.1.3 to 2.8.1
> OS: Mac OSX 10.1.5, 10.5.5, Windows NT, XP; iOS 3.1.2, 6.0.1
> browsers: Fx 1.0.7 - 14.0, Opera 12.15, Safari 3.2.1; MSIE …;iOS Safari
> for 3.1.2, 6.0.1
>
>
> On Saturday, March 9, 2013 4:21:30 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> As far as I can remember, chkToggleLinks came in very early in
>> TiddlyWiki's history - early in 2005, I think, before the TiddlyWiki Google
>> Group was established.
>>
>> The feature was suggested by a user, I think with the goal of making it
>> easier to "peek" at the target of a link by clicking once to open it and
>> then clicking again to close it. I wasn't a huge fan of the idea,
>> personally, but was happy to implement it under an option so that people
>> could experiment with it.
>>
>> As time went on I found the feature more and more annoying, probably for
>> much the same reasons as you're finding: it complicates one of TW's basic
>> operations, and makes it harder to experiment with changes to related
>> behaviour. It was one of the features that led to me creating the plugin
>> mechanism, so that I didn't have to overload the core with every proposed
>> modification or extension.
>>
>> Anyhow, I'm not sure whether it's worth taking the feature out at this
>> point in TW's lifetime, what would you propose?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Tobias Beer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone, especially Jeremy / Eric...
>>>
>>> Can anyone explain the reason behind chkToggleLinks?
>>>
>>> All I can think of is that it means confusion and... trouble... like the
>>> trouble I had when watching the behaviour in trying to understand what is
>>> happening and how I can prevent it in my plugin.
>>>
>>> From my perspective, I would appreciate if this were removed from the
>>> core and only implemented if some functionality actually needed it, but not
>>> as a global setting for all tiddlyLinks.
>>>
>>> Single page mode would be a lot more meaningful than this, especially if
>>> you desire to use TW as a website.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Tobias.
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>


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