I don't know if it has been discussed previously but has anyone considered 
transcluding the wikification syntex using some kind of drop down or icon based 
editor kind like email so you don't have to remember how to write the @@ part 
but instead can just highlite what you need to and then hit a button and it 
puts in the @@ for you? Or would that be a widget and I'm erroneously bogarting 
this thread. Sorry if I am.



Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G TouchStephan Hradek <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Am Freitag, 22. November 2013 21:54:13 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
As things stand it wouldn't be possible for a bit of wikitext syntax to modify 
the attributes of parent nodes in the widget render tree.

I didn't mean the parent of the @@, but wait…
 
It sounds like the best solution for your immediate problem would be a simpler 
syntax for:

<div class="english">
some english

another para
</div>

Sure, but as I already said in another situation: I don't want HTML here. For 
myself it's fine, but I want (have to) give it to others later.
 
So, I'm thinking that it would make sense to modify the @@ syntax so that it 
generates a div or span to carry the specified class.
That's what I meant for the @@@: Generate a surrounding <div> if there is not a 
single element inside the @@@-block.

 
As you note, this still means that we need a decent syntax for applying a class 
to the OL or UL of a list. I'd wondered using double dots, for example:

*..myListClass
* ListItem 1
*.myListItemClass ListItem 2

I like the idea, but what if someone comes up with:

*..myListClass
* ListItem 1
*.myListItemClass Listitem 2
*..myOtherListClass ListItem 3

So what if someone types the .. inside a list?

What do you think?

Question is: Do you want to keep the @@? I think we have 2 situations for 
something which is inside such a block:

It generates one HTML element
It generates more than one element
In case 1 there is no problem. Simply apply the class to the one element.

In case 2 stick to what we have: Apply the class to each top element generated.

But what now with @@@?

In case 1 it could either apply to the one element, which would make @@@ in 
this case be identical to @@

In case 2 it should create a div around the elements applying the class to that 
div. So @@@ would generate exactly what you proposed to me as a workaround.

So let's look at examples:


Case 1
@@.CL
# A
# B
# C
@@

Case 2
@@@.CL
# A
# B
# C
@@@

Case 3
@@.CL
A

B

C
@@

Case 4
@@@.CL
A

B

C
@@@

The generated HTML would be
Case 1 and 2
<ol class="CL">
<li>A</li>
<li>B</li>
<li>C</li>
</ol>

Case 3
<p class="CL">A</p>
<p class="CL">B</p>
<p class="CL">C</p>

Case 4
<div class="CL">
<p>A</p>
<p>B</p>
<p>C</p>
</div>

For consistency case 2 could alternatively generate
<div class="CL">
<ol>
<li>A</li>
<li>B</li>
<li>C</li>
</ol>
</div>

I think I even like the alternative better, because it's really more consistent.

What we loose is the ability to apply classes to each list element. But as it 
would always be the same class, I don't think it's too useful anyway. After all 
I think it's not a huge difference writing

ol.CL > li { … }
ul.CL > li { … }

instead of
ol > li.CL { … }
ul > li.CL { … }

The only case where you need a bit more to write is, when you currently have

li.CL { … }

you would need to write

ol.CL > li, ul.CL > li { … }

But regarding the HTML source generated, we would save some bytes. Imagine a 
list of 20 items all having class="myFantasticClass". That's 480 bytes now and 
24 bytes when we change ;)
 
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